Shoo snake

A spray of pellets from a 12g is all I would use on a snake.
That wont keep em away but when i spray em they don't come back again.
Dont care if they are protected, call me ignorant and stupid if you want but if i sees one round the house i will spray it.

In the bush is fine but not round here at all

Yeah my vet suggested a .410 after we lost our dog last year. Only thing is that I might get one or two shots off before I end up in a world of trouble. The joys of living in town... I do keep a long handle shovel at the back door foor just waiting to be used.

Sigh........... 12ga........ pump action Winchester ........ Thanks John - now only a memory.

As for a little current reality...

1. Length of fence wire - approx 4' to 5' - don't make it too long as it then becomes too akward to swing - twist a circle in the end so that it can be grabbed with the coil over the wrist while the straight is in the palm.


2. Length of poly water pipe [25mm diameter with the blue stripe] - same length as above but no loop for the hand - not necessary as the pipe fits the hand easily.

Bear in mind that the above is for use when you feel you have no choice - also bear in mind that if you miss then the "swatee" is going to be a little peeved and will probably attempt to even the score.

Some folks suggest a saucepan of boiling water but this [from what I have heard] only makes them extremely angry - not a great idea.

Best idea, if you can, is to back off, watch it, call someone else to phone someone who knows what they are doing - yep, difficult I know when you are on your own - perhaps then back to plan "A".

Bob

Sharpen edge of long handle shovel, very clean............

Bloke next door knocked one over last week with a piece of curtain rod on his way to lawn bowls. One less in the area to worry about.:2tsup:

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OUCH Jonno that is a little harsh mate. I reckon if you had a four year old playing in your backyard and you saw a black snake you would not just turn a blind eye.....

I was born and raised on a farm where snakes were treated with respect and left alone .... until one day I saw this bloody big king brown swallow a poddy calf that it had bitten and killed. Now that aint cool.

I respect their right to live, hell I will even defend their right to live. In my back yard they have no right and that is that. You think my son has less right to be able to play in our back yard than that snake?

BTW have you ever been bitten by a snake? NO? well it is not fun let me warn you.

Pete

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G'day Pete,

Was the situation involving the King Brown before or after the Flying Spaghetti Monster stopped by to borrow a cup of sugar? The key to intelligent conversation is the ability to not throw embarrasingly rediculous lies into the ring. There's only three, possibly 4 species of snakes in the WORLD that have the ability to consume a poddy calf, and they are all large pythons that don't occur in Australia.

With regards to your own statements, I practice what I preach. I have been bushwalking with my nieces (4 and 9 years old), and have witnessed several snakes, both venomous and non venomous. I stand still, and kids being kids, they copy me.

As I said earlier, state law is not open for interpretation or modification by the (ignorant) general public. All native reptiles ARE protected, whether they be in your kitchen, in your backyard, or in the bush. You don't get to choose.

I have never been bitten by a venomous snake, but that comes down to skill (and a little bit of luck...). I have witnessed friends being bitten, and performed first aid on them. They have all survived.

I apologise for coming across harsh but I have little apathy for people who are proud of being ignorant. Open your minds, don't be afraid to admit to a lack of knowledge on a subject and learn to learn! I have all the time in the world for people who may not know much about reptiles or wildlife, as long as they are open to accept the truth, not the myths.

What is very amusing is the macho men who are boasting of what weapons you can use against our "killer" snakes. You need weapons for an animal that is less than half an inch tall? In the words of Chopper Read, "Harden the f**k up Australia!".

Cheers

Jonno

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Originally Posted by Doughboy

OUCH Jonno that is a little harsh mate. I reckon if you had a four year old playing in your backyard and you saw a black snake you would not just turn a blind eye.....

I was born and raised on a farm where snakes were treated with respect and left alone .... until one day I saw this bloody big king brown swallow a poddy calf that it had bitten and killed. Now that aint cool.

I respect their right to live, hell I will even defend their right to live. In my back yard they have no right and that is that. You think my son has less right to be able to play in our back yard than that snake?

BTW have you ever been bitten by a snake? NO? well it is not fun let me warn you.

Pete

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Wouldnt your son be better off having a dad ............:-

Given that you live in canberra wouldnt you just call ACT parks who will happily move him for you.

By the time you grab the shovel any danger is well and truly over

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G'day Pete,

With regards to your own statements, I practice what I preach. I have been bushwalking with my nieces (4 and 9 years old), and have witnessed several snakes, both venomous and non venomous. I stand still, and kids being kids, they copy me.

As I said earlier, state law is not open for interpretation or modification by the (ignorant) general public. All native reptiles ARE protected, whether they be in your kitchen, in your backyard, or in the bush. You don't get to choose.

Jonno

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Theres a big difference between being out bushwalking where you are in their territory and when they are in your home or yard. Particularly your home I would never blame someone for killing them, although its darn dangerous. I have an 18 month old son, if any red belly blacks, brown snakes etc are in my yard, I hope someone kills them. I know the law, I understand the law, I don't care, my sons life comes first! I would never kill a snake - I'm too much of a coward, and I don't accept killing them in the bush, but in your yard, thats a different story to my mind. I back on to the bush, and the idea of snakes being on our property terrifys me, I know they are around, but luckily haven't seen many. Now that I have a son, I don't let poisonous spiders live eg funnelwebs, and I'd prefer someone killed any poisonous snake in my backyard, or at least make sure the damm thing doesn't come back. I'd also never give permission for a snake to be released back on my property. I actually have a strong environmental instinct but the maternal instinct is a lot stronger!

Colleen

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G'day Pete,

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Was the situation involving the King Brown before or after the Flying Spaghetti Monster stopped by to borrow a cup of sugar? The key to intelligent conversation is the ability to not throw embarrasingly rediculous lies into the ring. There's only three, possibly 4 species of snakes in the WORLD that have the ability to consume a poddy calf, and they are all large pythons that don't occur in Australia.

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Maybe true maybe not

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With regards to your own statements, I practice what I preach. I have been bushwalking with my nieces (4 and 9 years old), and have witnessed several snakes, both venomous and non venomous. I stand still, and kids being kids, they copy me.

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Yes you can go bushwalking and possibly see them. But do you live with them every day in your backyard in Brisbane.

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As I said earlier, state law is not open for interpretation or modification by the (ignorant) general public. All native reptiles ARE protected, whether they be in your kitchen, in your backyard, or in the bush. You don't get to choose.

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The law maybe not open to interpretation but when you are 50 klms from the nearest WIRES or other people that can remove the snake you wont convince anyone on this forum that is afraid of snakes and are a threat on their property that they wont remove anyway they can be it with a shovel, a shotgun, a rifle or a length of No 8 wire and not be caught and then bury the evidence.

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I have never been bitten by a venomous snake, but that comes down to skill (and a little bit of luck...). I have witnessed friends being bitten, and performed first aid on them. They have all survived.

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Well bravo to you but most people don't go out of their way to get bitten but I have friends that have been bitten from being in the garden and have a snake lying under the pea bushes and they have put their hand on it and not seen the snake or by lifting a sheet of iron

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I apologise for coming across harsh but I have little apathy for people who are proud of being ignorant. Open your minds, don't be afraid to admit to a lack of knowledge on a subject and learn to learn! I have all the time in the world for people who may not know much about reptiles or wildlife, as long as they are open to accept the truth, not the myths.

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It is not a myth snakes do bite and people die because of it.

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What is very amusing is the macho men who are boasting of what weapons you can use against our "killer" snakes. You need weapons for an animal that is less than half an inch tall? In the words of Chopper Read, "Harden the f**k up Australia!".

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Like the others have said when a snake is in my house yard and wont leave like some of them don't they will die. Have you seen a 6 foot brown reared up ready to strike they are very fast

Cheers

Jonno

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Hmmmmm, to save Jonno from going through this again, I'll cut and paste a post of his from the "Snakes In The Shed" thread, Garden Shed forum.........:

"Gday guys,

I keep over 150 snakes, mainly venomous species. I co-own a business called Educational Reptile Displays.

There are snake catchers in every part of Australia. Most of their contact details can be found on the internet. If not, call your local National Parks and Wildlife office or even the police. They will be able to put you in contact with someone.

As someone mentioned earlier, all Australian snakes are protected and deserve one thing - respect. Snakes do not attack, they do not chase people, and they are not aggressive. The reason there are snakes in your shed is because you have created a perfect environment for them. Clean up a bit, get rid of the rodent problem, and the snakes will move on.

There have been some very ignorant comments in this thread, as per usual. Most peoples fear is based off lack of knowledge. People fear what they don't know.

Snakes will not drink milk - they are lactose intolerant.

Cheers,

Jonno"

..........and while I think he's at least experienced enough to pass comment and I do agree with a lot of what he's said, I don't necessarily agree with such an inflexible attitude regarding snakes around homes, kids, etc.

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Believe or don't I dont particularly care.

Snakes are not agressive is just wrong, some are some are not, and if you have 150 snakes in your shed you should know that.

Do you know how big a freshly born poddy calf is? Go learn some stuff and bring experience to the table or keep your holyer than thou attitude to yourself.

Happy days to all.

Pete