Warnie to retire?

And for taking money from a book maker.

I would also like grunt to show where he was even implicated in relation to a bribe. David Hooks came out with the statement for his radio show and later retracted it.

Warnie was fined with Mark Waugh for giving weather and pitch infomation to a Indian bookie thats it. Hardly a hanging offence.

At the same time we all revel in the great story of Marsh and Lillie betting againsed us when we played the poms. Geeeze imagin if warne done that,

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Originally Posted by Jack E

Surely you are aware that he was suspended for using a banned substance.

Is that not cheating:confused:

Cheers, Jack

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It was a bloody diuretic to help loose weight. How does that help a cricketer cheat. Especially one who enjoys beer, baked beans and cigars rather than 5am dips in the freezing waters off Frankston?? Have a look at some of the rubbish our AFL and ARL players shove up their noses. I've never heard of Warne being accused of cocaine, marijuana or meth abuse? Lets put his so called drug cheat label into some perspective here guys. They take diuretics to lose fluid and they drink PowerAde to replenish depleted body salts. Why is one a performance enhancer and the other not?

If he was fined for it, does that not mean he did something wrong.

All I am saying is that being fined for illegally giving info to a bookie as well as being suspended for using a banned substance surely makes him ineligible for legend status.

If he is put in the hall of fame the roof will probably cave in.

I do agree that he is a pretty good bowler, although I would like to see how many of his wickets come from "cleaning up the tail":rolleyes:

I don't suffer from tall poppy syndrome, in fact warne is the only Aussie cricketer I have a problem with.

Cheers, Jack.

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Originally Posted by Grunt

And for taking money from a book maker.

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Crikey that'd be a change....usually the other way around... :D

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Originally Posted by Shedhand

It was a bloody diuretic to help loose weight. How does that help a cricketer cheat. Especially one who enjoys beer, baked beans and cigars rather than 5am dips in the freezing waters off Frankston?? Have a look at some of the rubbish our AFL and ARL players shove up their noses. I've never heard of Warne being accused of cocaine, marijuana or meth abuse? Lets put his so called drug cheat label into some perspective here guys. They take diuretics to lose fluid and they drink PowerAde to replenish depleted body salts. Why is one a performance enhancer and the other not?

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Regardless of what one is and what the other isn't, one of them is on the banned substance list.
That means that if you take it, you are a cheat.
I am sure we will hear in this thread that he was only taking it to lose weight.
Surely he has access to some of the best trainers in the world, if you are a professional sportsman perhaps you should take the time to put in the hard yards to stay in shape.
I am also sure we will hear "but my mum gave them to me".
Yeah, sure she did, perhaps wendells mum provides him with a razor blade and a mirror too:confused:

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Originally Posted by Jack E

I do agree that he is a pretty good bowler, although I would like to see how many of his wickets come from "cleaning up the tail":rolleyes:

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I think youl find its the class bowlers who can and do clean up the tail. I always remember big Joe Angel who was a sensational bowler and they say his major fault was his inability to clean up the tail. Thats why he never becaim a regular and was basicly banished to state level.

Anyone who tries to analyse Warnes bowling to sugest he is even slightly overated knows jack 5hit about the game

He does have great bowling figures, credit where it is due.

I still maintain that his tarnished record inhibits him from being a legend of the game.

But then I have just been told I don't know much about cricket.

Cheers, Jack

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Originally Posted by Lignum

Anyone who tries to analyse Warnes bowling to sugest he is even slightly overated knows jack 5hit about the game

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Absolutely correct!

As a bloke he may be a bit of a plonker, as a cricketer he is up there with the best who have ever played the game.

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Originally Posted by bitingmidge

Firstly, he's not a great man. In fact, if any of the published accounts have even an iota of truth, he's probably one of the most brain-dead specimens of a man that one could imagine.

He is a fantastic cricketer, one of the best that has ever played the game, and will be missed when he does pull the pin. It's been a great pleasure to have been able to watch him do his stuff.

On the other hand, it will make sod-all difference to the team. Check out the results before, after and during those two years he was gone after his stupid drug incident. The team didn't even stumble, much as though the "commentators" would have you believe. Yes, he took lots of wickets, but he was just one member of a TEAM.

I'll miss his bowling when he retires, but my grandson won't even know who he was.

The king of spin is dead. Long live the new king, whoever he may be.

It's just a game!

P
:D :D :D

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Very well said Pedrovich, spot on... Warnie, get your 700 and sod off to Upper Wankovia or wherever you intend "retiring" to....

Sounds like a load of journlist beat-up, he proberly rang Bob jane to book his car in and the press picked up on his decision to re-tyre:rolleyes:

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I think youl find its the class bowlers who can and do clean up the tail. I always remember big Joe Angel who was a sensational bowler and they say his major fault was his inability to clean up the tail. Thats why he never becaim a regular and was basicly banished to state level.

Anyone who tries to analyse Warnes bowling to sugest he is even slightly overated knows jack 5hit about the game

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Mate - if they did I'd be doin' 10 to life.... :D

LOL

Listen to the wannabies BAG the leggie God out. I think I'll keep listening to his international peers who have played with him got to know him and admire him.

Comments like "The Best Ever" "The Greatest" etc etc etc Keep flowing from the mouth's of those with the credentials to Judge the MAn.

The Don was our greatest BAtsman N Warnies our greatest Bowler. He will remain a legend

The Baggers Flack will PAss by like the Wind

Next thing you blokes will say is Muralie dosent chuck

Shame Shame Shame

Aussie Aussie Aussie OY OY OY!

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He is a fantastic cricketer, one of the best that has ever played the game, and will be missed when he does pull the pin. It's been a great pleasure to have been able to watch him do his stuff.

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(Just in case some missed part of my previous post.)

Not a cheat? Ask his missus!

A great example to kids? Well not the way I want my kids/grandkids to grow up. I wonder what his own kids really think of him?

Slimming pills? Banned because they are a masking agent for steroids, used to hasten healing of injuries. Of course it's impossible to think that "our" Warnie actually did anything wrong on purpose while recovering from surgery, so I won't even suggest that there was the remotest possiblity, nor that his "sentence" has once again recently been criticised for its leniency.

This bloke is one tall poppy that doesn't need to be pulled down, he does a pretty fair old job of that himself.

If he wasn't so darned good at throwing a ball 22 yards, we wouldn't even have this thread!

cheers,

P

Perhaps I'm a heretic. Perhaps I'm a cynic. Perhaps I simply don't like the bloke, but I wonder what his admirers would think of the same performances by a shiela, and the 'names' applied to her?
Ooops! By the way, I'm an old bloke - way before women's-lib.