Rant from a workplace counsellor

I think you're right Clinton, they live at home and then go to Uni the whole time being wrapped in cotton wool and then the real world hits and they can't handle it.

There's also a strong left influence in Uni's which seems to support the "I'm owed something for nothing" attitude. Ever notice how many protestors are Uni students with big ideas on how the world should be run because they have no grip on reality. I suspect many of these students go on to be materialistic money grabbers making the most money they can on the back of a non practical degree.

HH.

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Originally Posted by HappyHammer

There's also a strong left influence in Uni's.

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Don't agree with that generalisation, in Melbourne we have LaTrobe Uni (left wing), Melbourne Uni (right wing, my old school) and Monash Uni (who don't care what you are as long as you don't do it here).
LaTrobe are the one who offered the Australian flags for burning, which to me did not offend, as I would not have expected it from any other source, it is typical of their behaviour.

Iain,

Are there equal numbers of left and right uni's or would it be fair to say that the left make a concious effort to recruit and influence at the majority of uni's?

HH.

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Originally Posted by HappyHammer

Iain,

Are there equal numbers of left and right uni's or would it be fair to say that the left make a concious effort to recruit and influence at the majority of uni's?

HH.

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No idea, I'm not an LVA;)

A what?

It might be interesting to see if the uni whingers are from a particular study area or are generally even across the board.
eg are the whiners accountants, lawyers or engineers
or are they social workers etc

Then there are those (eg myself) who attend uni and couldn't give a stuff either way. I am responsible for my choices and I choose to survive, choose to take responsibility for my actions and choose for myself - yes there are times when the choice is taken away, but, I'm the one choosing what I do about it.

Bugger playing/living like a victim!!!!

There may be a common element that people who go to university end up using the lines Clinton said in Post 1, but not everyone is like that, and HappyHammer, not all uni students have that attitude, yes some do, but not all.

Just my humble opinion based on my experience.
cheers
Wendy
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PS very interesting discussion this

I was educated in the best university of all. "Life".
Now I've had my share of the ups and downs of life, some pretty tragic, others in hindsight not so bad, and some of the ups were very bloody good. Most of us on the forum would have been there done that got the T shirt to prove it sort of thing.
Now I know you can sort the wheat from the chaff Clinton, so with the benefit of a top education I would suggest you tell the "Chaff" the following:-

1. Grow up.
2. Sh$t happens.
3. If you don't like it then p$ss off.
4. It's your fault, wear it.
5. Get a better attitude.
etc.etc.

Ah yes, there was a time when you could say it.:mad:

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Originally Posted by Iain

"You only pick on me because I'm gay".
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Your friend hey??? :rolleyes: :D

Al :p

Im not so sure it starts at university. the social workers seem to have started spreading it through all levels of schooling. seems to me that it is a self-generating industry. i think it was Iain who said it a few posts back about the work available for the social workers expanding in direct proportion with the number and availability of social workers. if we had no social workers everyone would have to deal with their own problems. but while some uni-educated social worker being paid by the government is quite happy to sit there and let them pour out their tiny hearts, people will play the system to their advantage where they can.

once, when i was in the army, i was present when a soldier on a charge for a fairly minor infringement claimed reduced responsibility because his mother drank alcohol when he was a foetushttp://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ons/icon10.gif

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Originally Posted by echnidna

It might be interesting to see if the uni whingers are from a particular study area or are generally even across the board.
eg are the whiners accountants, lawyers or engineers
or are they social workers etc

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Usually from some non descript BA, often relating to (I hate this) social issues, Youth Issues, Womens Issues, they actually have BA's for these vague fields of science, and several others.
Albeit mine was Psychology but given I had a mind of my own, had already qualified in other areas, trade related, worked with villains, etc etc, I was not prone to be corrupted by these radical influences, much to the disgust of those I had to evaluate for Court proceedings.
LVA, a term we used for Labour Voting Aerosols, eg: Bleeding Hearts.

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Ah yes, there was a time when you could say it.

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I've been involved for long enough to be able to say anything I like, just got to use the correct language and guide the person into giving you the opportunity!


If I knew where it was coming from I'd be able to start making in-roads to changing that culture.
Thats why I'm bringing this up. I am sure there is no easy answer, but if you don't ask the question you'll never get the answer.

The foetal one, thats actually quite good!

It seems most degrees now have a wank word course element, i.e. business administration has four 1st year subjects that are nothing to do with business administration.

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Originally Posted by Clinton1

The foetal one, thats actually quite good!
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I liked it too, but did it work??????

This garbage has even extended into policing.

Its now mandatory to undertake counselling after attending a "critical incident" - death, accident, violent domestic etc.

So instead of just moving on you gotta relive it over and over and if you are a callous bugger and use black humour to get over it you are frowned on.

I remember p155ing myself when we were marking out a crash site with a theodolite;

Bumper, manifold, seatbelt, brain goo, hubcap......... had double counselling after owning up to that one:(


Oh and the other one was a recent recruit working the club district with us two older guys. Put up with cr*p from two young blokes picking fights with others most of the night. Made one too many pig grunts so decided they were coming in for a sleepover. They Decided to play up so away we go only to find it was just two of us playing.:D

The newbie just watched and did nothing. :confused: Finally took em down after calling for assistance and being helped by another crew.:D

Asked the newbie just "What the expletive is going on" to be told he didnt think it reasonable and chose to take no part. Then complained of course:mad: .

Clint

My advice is just to tell them all to fc**k off and get a life. That's been my practice.

By listening to this pathetic drivel you just give it credence and thus encourage the perpetrator.