Remove Condensation & insulate shed

Yep, I asked and asked and asked, and was told that if there is any insulation, lining or noise-reducing stuff put in, this changed it from a shed i.e. car garage to a workshop aka liveable room. If I had the shed built without doors big enough to drive a vehicle through, it became a workshop and had to be built to liveable standards, all to suit future buyers of the property not the existing owner/user of the structure. Frigging etc etc etc, I'm not interested in building a structure for someone else to blinking use in xxx years time, I'm building it for
ME.
so I've let it go for a while so I can calm down before going back to local council to have another go. Unfortunately, the impression I got was put in your application, ie pay the $ and we'll talk some more, and you are female, what do you know/want a shed for, it's just going to be studio sewing room for you :mad: :mad: :rolleyes: :eek:

Liveable, if my memory serves me, means 900 mm or was it 1500mm from the boundaries, and other specifics eg wind rating. sorry can't remember, was pretty steamed by this time. once I heard 1500mm from the boundary, there went my shed size from 6x5 metres to way too small for the intended use/enjoyment/equipment and siting on the spare patch of ground I have.

Oh, i did get a concession to, you can put in the insulation, do it after council inspection and approval, just remove it when you sell the place. Now what sense does that make?
where's the smiley that shows me ripping my hair out, screaming in frustration, sigh.
RufflyRustic

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You could use Ceramatec (sp) paint to get around the heat problem but I don't know if that will help the condensation problem.

thanks Iain

cheers
RR

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Originally Posted by rufflyrustic

If I had the shed built without doors big enough to drive a vehicle through, it became a workshop

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Ruffly: I have the solution: just build the shed with doors big enough to drive a vehicle through. Then, by definition, it's a shed:). That's what mine is: two 3 m wide sliding doors make one entire wall, and it's fine. Just means any fixtures along that wall have to be free-standing. Unless you want to fix the sliding doors in place, which is always an option, unless the council are going to do yearly inspections?

Zenwood, good ideas! but how do I keep HWMNBO from putting his mini and two motorbikes through the remaining door, while leaving enough room for me to get the tools and wood inside and the resulting work out. Maybe I'll just have to get him another shed:eek:

I don't think yearly inspections happen - whew!
I agree with either freestanding shelving/tools. I've been contemplating the idea of double-doors along that side, leaving one as useable and replacing the other with a wall and windows so as to let some light in.

Now, must remember to put buy that lotto ticket :)

Cheers
RR

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Originally Posted by rufflyrustic

...how do I keep HWMNBO from putting his mini and two motorbikes through the remaining door, ...

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Build a moat around the place...
Build the slab 2 ft above ground level...
Cover them in sawdust...
Use them for shelving & timber storage....

How are we doing? ;)

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Originally Posted by rufflyrustic

how do I keep HWMNBO from putting his mini and two motorbikes through the remaining door

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Option 1: possession is nine parts of the law. Just move in and occupy the space :).

Option 2: Get him to send his mini and two bikes to me. I used to drive a 1969 Cooper S, so as long as it's like that one...And while we're in mid-life crisis mode, he can send his Harleys my way too. ;)

I now officially want to be your HWMNBO: a wife into woodwork, and with a mini and 2 bikes...:D

Now here are some thaughts.
Do you want to leave you shed behind? Why not take it with you? :confused:
Don't tell any official person any thing thay can not find out from another source, Unless it works in your favor.
If you modualrise your insulation into panels, you can take them with you and put it up in the next shed. :D
Strategic dor obstructions. Large shelf or even better timber stacker. Trucking big bench. Large heavy piece of machinery which favours outside access. Any convienient pile of junk or stuff)

Flash car owners fear overspray far more than wood dust. Now when wher you buying that spary gun? :rolleyes: :D
cheers

Back to original thoughts in this thread.

I have moved into a place that had a shed built with recycled iron (lots of holes.) I sealed all the holes with selleys allclear before using it for my woodworking. Of late a little rain and there are sometimes drips in the shed but only in some areas. I thought I had sealled the roof. I had! The shed had foil under the roof in only some spots. These were the 'dry spots'. Where there was no foil condensation on iron = drips on floor and table saw. There is no water where there is foil below iron therefore I will have to put foil into areas not covered.

It is an interesting comparison given that the humidity is the same throughout the shed yet condensation and droplets only form where there is no foil and then drips on my stuff.

Shannon

Ruffly,

this is my suggestion. Build the thing the way they will let you build it. That is no insulation. Once inspected and passed, do what you want to the inside. They dont inspect again unless they receive a complaint and realistically, who the hell will complain about you putting insulation in.... Generally, you have the problems with the town planners on issues like this rather than the inspectors.

Or you can do what one of my neighbours did, just build without a DA. Even after a complaint from one of his neighbours the council did nothing. (This is not good advice by the way)

Good luck

Thanks Guys! I do like the moat idea - always wanted a water feature in the backyard. Sawdust over everything would be the next way to go. As for insulation, I agree with the good suggestions made - build the shed as stock, get it inspected, then do whatever I truckin' well want to.

Again, a great thread about insulating sheds and getting rid of condensation.

Apologies for the hijack.
cheers
RufflyRustic

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Originally Posted by zenwood

I now officially want to be your HWMNBO: a wife into woodwork, and with a mini and 2 bikes...:D

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Ah, um, ok, here goes, [how to let a fellow woodworker down gently] Um, Zenwood, I am flattered, very flattered, but am already taken. Confession time, I wish HWMNBO was into wood working, then it really would be a match made in heaven :D

Hmm, maybe it's better this way as we wouldn't be sharing tools and fighting over who does what, where, when and him trying to tell me what to do.:rolleyes:


Cheers
RufflyRustic

This is how my old shed is insulated:D

speedy tell me thats the secret entrance to an underground workshop.
If it isn't you'd have to step outside to turn round a stanley no7. Its almost as small as ruffly's.