Mmmmm.... hamburger....

quote>>People go on as if this is the fault of the fast food outlets. How about taking responsibility for your own decisions and don't eat it. In case of the children, They don't chose what they eat, their parents do. <<

150% right Dan its time the dogooders and social workers etc started telling ppl to accept responsability rather than agreeing with them and blaming the corps et al (No Al not u ) Business is in business to make money parents are supposed to educate the children with life skills....... :mad:
Pete

Dan is 100% correct

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Therefore, it stands to reason that the parents are at fault.

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If you don't want your kids to be influenced by television and peer pressure...STOP THEM WATCHING IT. It's easy!

Or do THEY control YOU??

Teach them to use their brains...of course that stuff is cheap...IT'S FULL OF FAT!!

Send them HERE to learn a bit about fast food!!

At the end of the day we all have a choice, and quite frankly for everyone that I know that keels over early, I breath a quiet prayer of thanks: statistically my chances of living longer than the average improve!

Cheers,

P (sorry about the ad....and the fact that it's a US site)

NO I'M NOT...I'M DOING A COMMUNITY SERVICE HERE...and so are some companies...cynically selling stuff that's good for you, and promoting healthy lifestyles...what next!

:D :D :D

It's interesting to see the influence of the West here in China (Shanghai). Through clever marketing and product positioning fast food is seen as a luxury item here. So the Maccas, KFC and Pizza hut are always chockers.

Marketing is a powerful tool and the companies have to take some responsibility for how they position the product. Doesn't the very name of a Mc Donalds kids meal imply some sort of desireability. Who wouldn't want to buy something that is "Happy" and let's not forget the toy that come with it.

Parents have the responsibility to teach their kids to eat well. What's interesting for me is to return to Australia occasionally and see the number of teenagers who have butts that can be measured in pick handles. It's not a genetic thing, it's usually choice. Maybe we are not doing our job well!

Now, in China, the teens aren't that fat but they are working on it. The kids from families that can afford to eat at the fast food chains are starting to look just like westerners.

Me, I eat chinese regularly and have lost 10kg. Anybody want to send me some Tim Tams?
Pete

ask BM he gets em by the carton :p ......they has to be the worst choice in bickies tho :D :confused:
Pete

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Anybody want to send me some Tim Tams?
Pete

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send me PM with your address and ill send them 4 YA

Cheers Ian :)

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Originally Posted by fxst

ask BM he gets em by the carton :p ......they has to be the worst choice in bickies tho :D :confused:
Pete

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Choccy Royals is better. :D

in uk they've got mcvitties (spelling?) plain chocolate digestive biscuits (chocolate is only on one face) ..... mmm..... was horified to discover digestive biscuits here appear to be for the digestion as they taste like cardboard. Real digestive biscuits DON'T taste like cardboard.

Some people butter the non-chocolate coated ones ( with real butter not marge) stick another one on top like a sandwich .... but that is a bit decadent I think and the butter melting in your tea makes it go all funny.

You guys who have never dunked a proper biscuit in your tea just don't know what you are missing.

I think I will ask my mum to bring me some out when she comes ... then all we have to do is persuade customs to let them in :(

tim tams don't rate in the uk post office. Sent my son a parcel of stuff and it was broken into by someone in the uk post office ... they didn't steal the tim tams tho.

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......tim tams don't rate in the uk post office. Sent my son a parcel of stuff and it was broken into by someone in the uk post office ... they didn't steal the tim tams tho.

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Goes to show Jackie that most poms seem to be slow to recognise a good thing! :p History shows that when they discovered a large continent with lots of natural resources and a great climate (or range of climate) they decided to send all their prisoners there and keep living on their cold, wet and rainy little island. :D
Of course since then, some of the more astute ones (like yourself) have realised what a great place it is, the rest are still back there trying to work out what a Tim Tam is. :confused:

Mick

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Sent my son a parcel of stuff and it was broken into by someone in the uk post office ... they didn't steal the tim tams tho.

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Hi Jackie

I doubt that the parcel was broken in to. It is far more likely that it just broke apart from the rough handling it would have got from the postal workers and the machinery. It really is amazing what some people send through the post. Last week we had a framed and glazed picture about 1 metre square which had a sheet of paper wrapped around it to protect it. Funnily enough it didn't even last two minutes into the sorting process. Hmmm ... wonder why not?
Imagine. Parcel gets posted at post office; they bag it; bag is slung into back of vehicle; gets to mail centre; gets slung on to carousel; gets slung into a ULD (large metal crate for carrying lots of parcels at a time); ULD is shipped to Sydney; ULD is tipped upside down to empty it for further sorting; goes through more throwing around; put into a bag for shipping; bag may be beneath 100 tons of other stuff; and then at the overseas end the whole process is gone through again.
I haven't even mentioned the machinery that may be used to sling the parcel down various belts and chutes.

Are you sure that you wrapped your parcel sufficiently well to withstand all that?

Parcel was insured. To get insurance you have to list the contents. ( all of which ( except tim-tams which were a gift) were my son's own belongings which were being sent to him because he'd forgotten them e.g. game boy games plus some items of very sentimental value to him ).

Parcel was extremely robustly wrapped. When I wrap a parcel it would survive a stampeding herd of elephants!!!!

Customs in uk impounded the parcel because of the insurance level. There then followed heated discussions between family in uk and customs over whether or not we had to pay duty on my sons own belongings.

UK customs then gave the parcel to the post office sorting office ( who happened to be in same building as the customs office ) . Who didn't deliver it. family in uk chased it up with customs. customs said the post office had it. post office said that they'd been unable to deliver it !!! and had sent it back to Australia.

It didn't arrive back here so we chased it up with uk post office who if memory serves me rightly then said that they hadn't had it from customs in the first place.

Anyway by this time family were on first name terms with customs who have more rights of access than the police and who went into the post office back store. There was the very trashed parcel sat on a shelf minus everything of any monetary value ( but still containing the tim-tams). very embarassed post office gave us what was left of the parcel and paid out on the insurance.

which gives the big dilemma. Do you insure the parcel and explicitly state the contents ... thus letting the less than honest in the post office know there is something worth nicking. Or do you not insure it and risk losing the contents anyway by some mischance and/or theft.

Have to say that it was abundantly clear to whoever robbed the parcel that the contents belonged to a child and not an adult so they are total scum bags.

Ouch!!!!!!! Glad I don't work for the GPO or any affiliated body.
Having said that when my parents came to Australia mother had her sewing machine stolen from within a tea chest, all very carefully repacked too.
It was a very expensive machine and she suspected the driver and crew who picked up the goods that were still being packed.
Never saw it again though.

Ohhhh ....................... OK then .............. but what I said still stands, except that I no longer doubt that it was stolen by some GPO scum bags. :)

Ian,
Thanks for the offer, I was just joking. I've just returned from a week in lovely OZ. I tell you winter in Port Stephens sure beats summer in Shanghai. Anyhow, I grabbed a nice supply of bickies and chocolate - now to be disciplined enough to make them last. I can actually get them here but have to pay over 5 Oxfords a pack.

It's interesting though that all of my favorite foods just didn't taste as good as I remember and they were all too fatty. The Chinese tucka is a little oily but not heavy and fatty.

Had lunch today; 12 people and more food than you could poke a stick at (even luxuries like sea cucumber :eek: ) All up it cost less than 60 bucks. There's some great food here; I've eaten just about every part of the pig except his tail and his donger! Ears and tongue were interesting to eat.

Another bonus the local beer (Tsing Dao - not a bad drop) just over 50 cents a 750 ml bottle. A good drop of Aussie red cost 20 -30 buck though.