Barnaby Joyce

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Originally Posted by rrobor

I would now like to state that things are back to normal. Rob

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Good,
Cheers,
Jim

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Originally Posted by Geoff Dean

And most conveniently forget that it was "No GST in the term of this government".

He called an election and stated if returned would introduce a GST. If you are going to drag up that old smokey, at least try to get it right.
Not going to argue that out. If you believe politicians never twist the truth and break their word, thats your thing. What Abbott promised the independants is unknown but Ill tell you one hing, it was not what he promised before the election and I bet if he got in you would not be calling him a liar.
You told me to go find a tree, :(( like I'm a monkey and should climb it. I found it very offensive.

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You may note at the top of your screen it says " Woodwork Forums" That suggests its all about wood. If you wish to put some other spin on me saying "lets get back to wood" then again thats your thing.

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Originally Posted by rrobor

You may note at the top of your screen it says " Woodwork Forums" That suggests its all about wood. If you wish to put some other spin on me saying "lets get back to wood" then again thats your thing.

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The heading on this Forum is:
NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH WOODWORK This forum is for GENERAL DISCUSSION/DEBATE/CONFRONTATION etc. on any topic you like, so long as it has NOTHING TO DO WITH WOODWORK.

It would be easier for me to shut my face and accept. But shutting ones face is the act of a coward and it changes nothing. For the record I have been banned from the renovative forum, My views were not as those of the moderator and when asked to take a pill I declined. Here If you wish to check, I ask you to look at the top. Sure it may be that I was careful , Next I never mentioned woodwork. If I had to go before Melud, Guess what I am home free. The moderator here has allowed his bias to fog his view. I would ask him to view my post again. At no time did I mention woodwork and I only mentioned the top of the page not the forum selected. <O:p</O:p
So again I enter the area of “ Will I be back or will this ever be seen". Guess what If freedom of speech is not for this place then neither am I.<O:p></O:p>

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Originally Posted by rrobor

It would be easier for me to shut my face and accept. But shutting ones face is the act of a coward and it changes nothing. For the record I have been banned from the renovative forum, My views were not as those of the moderator and when asked to take a pill I declined. Here If you wish to check, I ask you to look at the top. Sure it may be that I was careful , Next I never mentioned woodwork. If I had to go before Melud, Guess what I am home free. The moderator here has allowed his bias to fog his view. I would ask him to view my post again. At no time did I mention woodwork and I only mentioned the top of the page not the forum selected. <o>:p</o>:p
So again I enter the area of “ Will I be back or will this ever be seen". Guess what If freedom of speech is not for this place then neither am I.<o>:p></o>:p>

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This isn't a site for free speech since it is a private forum and we are here only by the good grace of the owner. I think you are going a bit over the top Rob a and you should go away for a while and chill out. It's bloody poor form to publicly critisize a mod. If you have a real concern you should resolve it behind the scenes IMHO.

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Originally Posted by mic-d

This isn't a site for free speech since it is a private forum and we are here only by the good grace of the owner. I think you are going a bit over the top Rob a and you should go away for a while and chill out. It's bloody poor form to publicly critisize a mod. If you have a real concern you should resolve it behind the scenes IMHO.

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Oh for the sake of the wee man. But OK that is your view that we must conform and I respect that. But ask yourself , where does conforming end. Should we all go about saying Baa. At what poiint will you say, "this far and no more. Sure I may be a hothead. But the majority are influenced between extremes so you need me. And for that matter you need the other extreme. So Im sure they will have their say, your modorate view is nice, but nice just dont do it. Rob

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Originally Posted by rrobor

Oh for the sake of the wee man. But OK that is your view that we must conform and I respect that. But ask yourself , where does conforming end. Should we all go about saying Baa. At what poiint will you say, "this far and no more. Sure I may be a hothead. But the majority are influenced between extremes so you need me. And for that matter you need the other extreme. So Im sure they will have their say, your modorate view is nice, but nice just dont do it. Rob

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No it's not my view, although I accept it. It is the view of the owner. I think you are mistaking intolerance of rudeness (not only you either) for intolerance of extreme views. If one cannot engage in civil dialogue from widely differing opinions then there can be no real dialog and you might as well go off and beat each other with rocks and sticks.

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Originally Posted by rrobor

Sure I may be a hothead. But the majority are influenced between extremes so you need me.

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Yes, you are a hothead and no we don't need you. Stating your point of view is welcome BUT the continual re-harping of the same thing is boring and makes you appear like a vexatious and compulsive arguer. Not very nice to be known as.

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Originally Posted by rrobor

The moderator here has allowed his bias to fog his view.

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being biased :rolleyes: you must be joking.

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Originally Posted by rrobor

Guess what If freedom of speech is not for this place then neither am I.

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In that case good bye and good luck with your projects.


Peter.

No Im sorry, its not the view of the owner. What his view is I have no idea, nor do you. What I do know is someone tagged me, I complained and that tag was removed. Take what you will from that.
Now at no time have I been rude to anybody. Sure I mentioned a tree rather than wood for reasons that you now see, and someone built a fence (sorry). Show me if you can, where I was rude and I will retract, but you will not find it, delving into that sort of stuff I find reduces your arguement, as such its not the way I go.
This is the world wide web. If I take your arguement to its extreme we could have some horrific organisation spouting hate and we should all say nothing and allow Australia to be soiled. Freedom of speech implies that we all have our say. Please let the reader sort the grain from the chaff.

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Originally Posted by rrobor

Waldo, to my mind disrespects the office, and as such disrespects the country. To Waldo I say your vote is your way of removing those you dont like, but when our system selects a government, the office should be respected. What you do is insult the majority of the population of this country.

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That insulted me and raised my ire, and thus why I posted my reply. But I move on and live another day.

An honest answer Waldo, and I respect your dislike of the Gillard government. But let us modify your statements and let us apply that to black immigrants. Now do you not think you would be up to your neck in it if that were so..
To Sturdee, We all have a bias. What most people dont accept is that this is so. Nature creates bias. A white blackbird is killed after leaving the nest. You have to accept is this is natural and modify to compensate.

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Originally Posted by rrobor

But let us modify your statements and let us apply that to black immigrants. Now do you not think you would be up to your neck in it if that were so..

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It doesn't apply, except I share the same thoughts on it as the UNHCR have. My remarks applied to Dillard and the affects to the economy.

rrobor in all seriousness, do you get enough sunlight in winter? Actually there's a few stars out tonight too :)

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Originally Posted by rrobor

No Im sorry, its not the view of the owner. What his view is I have no idea, nor do you. What I do know is someone tagged me, I complained and that tag was removed. Take what you will from that.
Now at no time have I been rude to anybody. Sure I mentioned a tree rather than wood for reasons that you now see, and someone built a fence (sorry). Show me if you can, where I was rude and I will retract, but you will not find it, delving into that sort of stuff I find reduces your arguement, as such its not the way I go.
This is the world wide web. If I take your arguement to its extreme we could have some horrific organisation spouting hate and we should all say nothing and allow Australia to be soiled. Freedom of speech implies that we all have our say. Please let the reader sort the grain from the chaff.

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Well you better get abreast of Neil's views before you're out on your ear:D Maybe start by reading the forum rules. This is a private site and the benevolent dictator has the final say whether you like it or not. You can argue about it til the cows come home and do all the reductio ad absurdum you wish. It is rudeness in the extreme to call into question a moderator in public. You should deal with that in the background IMHO. You should apologise for that I reckon.

Waldo it does apply. You have to respect our political system and accept that an insult to the PM is an insult to a great many Australians. I am not a lover of her government, I think she is weak but I do not go about insulting her. To Springwater, Why waste your time, I didnt find much humour in your post and it gave absolutly zero to the thread.