School Bullies

As I have just discovered, a very worrying and frustrating time in a parent's life is when one of your kids comes home from school and tells you that they are being picked on. Yes, our 7 year old daughter has told us that an 8 year old boy, by the name of Reece, who is the biggest kid in her class (she's in a mixed class with year 1 & 2 kids), has been calling her names and picking on her in the playground. It got to the point last week where she did not want to go to school. We asked her what was wrong and she eventually told us about it.

So my first reaction is to find out who the kid is and confront his parents. I mean what sort of cowardly little #### are they raising that he gets his kicks out of picking on a little girl? Then I'd like a few moments alone in a locked room with him. I think I know who he is. I used to help out with Auskick last year and I'm pretty sure he is the same fat little ##### that I took an instant disliking to. He never did what he was told and used to bully the other kids around, especially the little ones.

Bullies are all cowards and if you confront them, they turn to water. But this guy is at least twice the size of my daughter. So, we've made an appointment to go up to the school and discuss it with her teacher. I will be suggesting that they get his parents in and have a little talk about it. I'd love to be there too. Kids usually get their behaviour from their parents one way or another. If I ever found out my son was doing something like this to a little girl, I would kick his backside so hard he wouldn't sit down for a week and then I would tell him that there is a difference between respect and fear and if he thinks that making other kids fear him is getting him any respect I will give him something to fear.

I have you in my sights now, Reece, you fat little ####.

Hmm...

Yeah, whatever you have to do, you do.



But that's not why I am here.

I have a 'nephew' whose name is Reece, and it's possible this might be him.

If you manage to find out what his mum and dad are called, PM me ASAP. I might be able to give you something to chew on as rational talking wont do squat. :(

Having been bullied as a child at school, high school and into university, I personally know that my lack of self-confidence was most likely the main problem i.e. easy to pick on, won't answer back.

A big life change happened and now people who know me don't dare pick on me as they know I won't take it any more - (YAY!!!!)

SilentC - is there any chance of doing some roleplays or confidence building stuff or sport that may help with your's daughter's self-confidence?

This is not a wholistic answer by any shape or form.

Good luck sorting it out.

cheers
Wendy

The thing is, last year she was the most confident kid in the class. Her report basically said we have nothing to worry about, she is confident, happy, entusiastic etc etc and talks with her teacher confirmed this. She loved school and she cried on the first morning of school holidays when Mum told her she wasn't going to school.

This year, her report says she lacks confidence, all her scores are down, and now she says she hates school. What has changed? We asked her what was wrong and she comes out with this story. We told her this morning that we were going to talk to her teacher about it and she freaked out. Then she said that she made it up, he wasn't picking on her and she would just stay away from him.

There are two conclusions I can draw from that. I know which one I'm going with.

I was never the type to fight back either. My old man used to tell me about a bully he ran into at school. He used to pick on him and his mate, so the two of them went and learned some judo throws over the holidays. First day back, the guy comes up to pick on them, dad grabs him by the arm, throws him over his shoulder and that was the end of that.

I prefered to just stay away from the deadsh#ts at school. There were plenty of them too. We had one guy who used to get on the school bus every morning and he would walk up the aisle, making little remarks to kids he singled out for attention, messing up their hair, blowing kisses, a real wanker. I think he's in gaol now. Hi Brett :D

My involvement with bullies usually stopped when I left permanent marks on their person.

When will they learn not to pick on the gentle fat kid who was taught how to box from 4 years old?

When their nose/teeth don't work right no more... ;)


(I think it's the concept that there is always someone out there who can, and will, give them a hiding if they ask for it that brings them into line. All the more effective if it comes from a highly unlikely source. Doesn't always work though...)

There is a place in hell for bullies. They are all bastards and I hate them all. They are all fat and ugly. They are all losers.:mad: X 1000

I remember the fear to step out of the school because this fat bastard was waiting for me. I didn’t want to go to school, I didn’t want to see them anymore.

I thought I was a cool kid, I played my basketball, I have never had a fight with anyone but I still got picked on a couple of times.

I feel sorry for your girl mate. I fully understand how she feels at the moment. It is bad. Talk to the school, talk to his parents and more importantly talk to the bastard and let him know someone bigger than him is protecting your little girl.

The best way to stop a school bullie is public humiliation

hi silent, i know the emotions that you are feeling i been through it my self with my boy last year it got to a stage my boy (tyson)would be physically ill on the way to school he was that worried so i enrolled him and the other 2 kids and the missus in ty kwon do (spelling) not for him to fight back but to give him the confidence to do so IF nessacery (sp) not only did tyson,s worries stop his school grades also shot up and another plus is the missus hasn't felt so good for years;)

SilentC

I was bullied at school too and I fear that it will happen to my kids too when they are older (so far so good at Kindy).

The one thing I remember was how good it was to know that my Mum and Dad were on my side and listened to what I said I wanted (even if I was wrong and didn't want them to do anything for fear of making the reprisals from the bully worse). I had to learn to deal with the bullies for myself and having a mother or father or teacher do it for me wouldn't help.

That's why judo and boxing worked for Schtoo and you - you both took control yourself. Wendy seems to have done the same but differently and for her it took longer and wasn't so direct - she had to believe in herself to be able to say that she wasn't going to put up with it.

It's going to be tough though. But unless your daughter knows that she can deal with it herself, she won't ever be free of the fear of being bullied. I'm afraid that your role (especially if Reece is Schtoo's nephew and has parents that won't see that this is a problem) is to let her know that you are always there and always on her side, always ready to listen to her and advise and make suggestions but always respectful and supportive of her decisions about her life. If she has that strong family base to work from, she will find a way to deal with the issue.

It still makes you (and me) want to punch the kid's father's eyes out and boot the kid from here to Timbuctoo. That would make you feel better, but may not help your girl.

Jeremy

Not much to add here but I can imagine how you feel silent. :(

Just persist with the school to have it followed up, most schools should have bullying policies implemented, but still need a persistant parent to ensure it's followed through rather than taking the soft option of placating the parents & hoping it goes away.

I was bullied in the secondary years and it is pretty traumatic to face every day, as a kid the effect on you is significant.


Regards & cheers...............Sean

When I was about 7, I played with boy next door all the time. We were buddies, his sister(14), on the other hand, was a total :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: . She picked on my all the time. I must listen to her, give her my pocket money, blah, blah, blah.

She rang and wrote letters to my school pretended to be my sister. She lied about me and got me into trouble all the time. She stole our house keys, broke into our place and stole money. One day my brother got home early and caught her. We should have called the police but we didn’t. Big mistake. I think she got into trouble a number of times since.

The trouble was she is such a sweet girl when there are adults around. I still don’t know why I was so scared to tell anyone about her, not even my own family.

FEAR can destroy your childhood.:(

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If I ever found out my son was doing something like this to a little girl, I would kick his backside so hard he wouldn't sit down for a week and then I would tell him that there is a difference between respect and fear and if he thinks that making other kids fear him is getting him any respect I will give him something to fear.

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Onya Silent. A man after my own heart..:D

Back on track, my wifes school has a strict policy on bullying and it is enforced when reported or noticed. Kids are given lessons on it as well. Like most things some cases never get reported for fear of even worse treatment.

This extends away from school, how many people ignore reporting wrong doing for fear of reprisals. The real bullies in society prey on it. They can seek revenge from the lock up as well.

Just watched a doco on the trade of sex slaves in Europe. They treat women like items, sell them off and they are raped and forced into prostitution etc. They get little help from the law and usually get deported when busted. All the time their "owners" threaten them will harm to their children and families if they cause problems.

Why cant decency take precedence here and these mongrels get rounded up and locked away. Maybe they dont control oil wells???????


Sorry not trying to hijack.

Boy, will this thread get some responses.

I was where you are 12 months ago Silent. Long story, but similar - older loser from G4 beating up on my kind, gentle, wonderfull little G1 Max. We did all the 'proper' things, but snapped when Max cam home unable to speak with a swollen tounge - ar5ewipe had pulled his hands off the steel equipment's ladder, chin hits rung, tooth through tounge. :eek: What made me white hot was that this happened at lunchtime, Max said that he begged for mum/dad to come, wasn't allowed, back to class with no pain relief, and no communication to parents. AAAAAAAAarrrrrgggghhhhhh! :mad: :mad: To think that I was sitting at my desk while some lowlife was methodically taking my boy's innocence away made me livid. Coupled of course with my own vivid memories of being bullied. Bastards.:mad:

We discovered systemic problems at the school, and mobed to the local Catholic school in town. A different world, sweetness and light. :) Max went from level 4 to level 15 in reading in his first term. Lots of communication from the school. Wonderful.

We too got the message that talking to the parents would get you nothing but a slap for you and probably the bully for good measure. If you really think how many kids are miss-treated by their own parents you would not stop crying, ever. Sigh.

I couldnt believe that I had to teach my son self-defence at age 6. He was on to it anyway - "dad, if I do that to him there'll just be payback" That school let my boy get hurt, they let him down.

None of this helps you of course. Communication, strategy, education, self-defense - change schools? Dunno. This is a national problem.:(

D

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The real bullies in society prey on it. They can seek revenge from the lock up as well.

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It is FEAR. Same stuff. But it is not a couple of punches anymore. It is about your own safety and the safety of your family. Unfortunately those bastards know it so well. Bad people will continue to use fear as their weapon and it will always work.

Sorry guys, carry on.

Darren,

Sorry to hear about you daughter’s situation.

I understand your frustration and theory about the parents possibly being responsible for their son’s behaviour. Obviously the kid has a big problem which he thinks will be solved by making the lives of others a misery.

Maybe someone like Derek can offer some assistance – using darkside methods of course.

I dearly hope the problem is resolved for everyone’s sake because school can be enough of challenge without this sort of activity complicating matters.

Perhaps you could take the kid under your wing and get him to test the sharpness of your blades – you always pull a chisel towards you don’t you?

Just got back from the school. The teacher can't really confirm or deny the allegation. He's the bad boy in class no doubt - but she thinks that could make him an easy target for blame. We know that something is troubling her. She hasn't settled down in class this year. We've arranged for a counsellor to talk to her and see if they can get to the bottom of it. As she said, things can go on in the playground that she would never be aware of but she hasn't noticed anything in class.

I saw the kid when we were there, he's not the same one I was thinking of. Looks like a little smart@rse but otherwise harmless enough - big for his age. My wife pointed to him and said "that's him". I will keep a very close eye on this. We have to be careful not to jump in boots and all.

Funny thing is I thought we wouldn't have any trouble with her, it's the son I was expecting to have the trouble with.

SilentC - not being a father I am prolly talking out my bum....but, I see it at an older persons stage (lete teens, early twenty's).

If you solve the problem, then she will not learn how to solve the problem for herself. There are some important lessons in learing to deal with bullies, and it won't be the last time she runs into one.

Unfortunately, learning lifes hard lessons is part and parcel of growing up...can you be her sounding board - give her the skills to deal with the little twit??

Maybe she is a bit young to deal with this?? Maybe when she is older?

Bet you'd rather just go in swinging though!

Looked into bullying a bit a couple of years ago to help my son.

One suggestion which I thought had merit was to get the victim to focus on counting the incidents, rather than reacting to them in any other way.

Eg: Bully: "You're a snot-face!"
Vic: "1"

B: "You're a scumbag!"
V: "2"

etc. The idea is that concentrating on counting prevents a whole lot of other reactions, and is not something that the bully expects, nor is it a reaction the bully wants.

I'd guess this works best when the bullying isn't physical.

My son wanted to learn boxing to protect himself, so I reluctantly agreed that he could have that as a last resort, once we'd discussed and tried several other approaches first (including getting back to his prior level of schoolwork). When he finally did thump the bully, he said he felt very calm about it, not lashing out from fear, but told the guy "I've tried A with you, I've tried B, and C, and D. The only other option I can think of is violence." At this stage the bully backed off, but my son followed him saying "I have to keep my word now". No probs since (apart from messy bedroom, too much TV, too little chores, too many phone calls, too little respect to parents .....)

Cheers,
Andrew

I was in a similar situation as your daughter when I was in kindergarten. There was a kid picking on me and I didn't want to go to kinder. My parents worked out through talking to me that I was being bullied and so my dad taught me how to punch. He showed me how to clench a proper fist and told me to punch the kid in the guts as hard as I could when next he was picking on me. It worked. He didn't pick on me again during my time in kindergarten.

This particular kid and I ended up going to the same primary school and high school. He was as thick as a brick and he must have only remembered stuff for about 2 years. Roughly every 2 years he would have a go at me again and I would have to thump him so that the bullying wouldn't start all over again. He dropped out after about year 9 so I didn't have to worry about him after that.

Another bully was gunning for me on the school bus when I was in about year 9. He would be at me every trip on the bus, both to and from school. He would take my stuff, punch me in the back of the head when I wasn't expecting it etc. (he sat a few seats behind me on the bus). This particular kid was in year 12 at the time. In the end I went and confronted him outside the year 12 common room. I called him outside and gave him a mouthful and he never bullied me again. During the confrontation I thought I was going to get thumped but it never happened. He just wanted the confrontation to be over because I suppose he was embarrassed by his year 12 mates seeing him getting called outside by a year 9.

Another time during high school a kid a year older than me was starting to bully me and so I didn't wait too long before confronting him. This time we did get into a fight and I got the crap beaten out of me. The result though was that the bullying stopped.

I think the lesson I learnt from these three events was that bullies don't like being confronted or resisted, even if by resisting them you cop a bit of a one-off beating. They will probably move on and pick on someone who puts up no resistance at all.

Not sure what you can take out of this to help your daughter silentC. I hope you can help her sort it out though. All the best.

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..... What has changed? We asked her what was wrong and she comes out with this story. We told her this morning that we were going to talk to her teacher about it and she freaked out. Then she said that she made it up, he wasn't picking on her and she would just stay away from him.

There are two conclusions I can draw from that. I know which one I'm going with.
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SilentC, why did your daughter freak out about you talking to the teacher? Is the teacher an uncaring bully too? (hoping to be very wrong here, but what you said above has been stuck in my head all day)

Wendy

We had one of two possible explanations for that: 1. she was fibbing about the bullying and didn't want us to tell the teacher because it was a lie or 2. she was scared of Reece finding out that she'd been "dobbing". I went with the latter because of other things she said to us.

We're not sure exactly to what extent, if any, the bullying has been taking place, so we have some more digging to do. I tend to give her the benefit of the doubt because she is usually very honest with us, but there could be something else going on in her little world that we don't know about yet. If it turns out that she has told us a porky, there will be stern words had.

Wendy, I think we (adults) see the situation differently. She tells the true, we talk to the teachers, problem solved.

For a 7 year old girl, they see it differently. Bullies are like monsters (well they are), you cannot stop them. If you tell your parents then they might get upset and things will only get worse.

Well, that made for interesting discussion didn't it?

I don't know for sure that this Reece is in any way related to me, and I probably will never know. The only reason that mentioned it is that I don't know for sure where he is, the name fits and he is about that age, I think. Last time I saw him, he promised to be pretty sizeable and an annoying little bastich.

If it is so, then the problems there stretch back a loooong time, and there isn't any easy fix.

Well, there is but it's from the pointy end of a .308...


Now, I really worry about my son when he hits school. Prolly end up being the only kid in school who isn't Japanese, and will suffer for it. I just hope he works out how to deal with it for himself before it becomes a big problem because I doubt I will be able to do anything to help him.

That's mainly because too many parents here should be drowned at birth IMHO. Absolutely no discipline whatsoever, and then they wonder why the kids get into so much strife. Luckily, the culture here restricts the scale of the trouble kids manage, but that's changing for the worse every day.

I wouldn't wish him to solve his problems the way I had to after incessant bullying.

Getting hit doesn't tickle. ;)

Schtoo,

In Asia, it is different. We are talking about gangsters, members of a triad, “who is your big brother” and “I know where you live” that kind of stuff. They are young criminals.

The best (only) approach is to stay away from them no matter what.

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The best (only) approach is to stay away from them no matter what.

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Python Poo would sort them out Wongo;)

When I came here, because of my lack of English, some kids at school were stupid enough to pick on me. Little did they realise that I grew up in Amsterdam and learned street fighting like a pro.

When I had enough and confronted the bully and he put up his hands to box me. However he wasn't prepared for the swift kick to his nether parts followed by grabbing his head and smashing it against my raised knee. Then every time he moved I kicked him and hard.

That is the only way to deal with school bullies. Your daughter has to do it herself. Parents talking to teachers won't work. Instead teach your daughter some dirty street fighting techniques and back her up if she gets in trouble for having defended herself.

That way the bully gets bullied and your daughter will gain self esteem and she will respect you for believing her and trusting her.

Or give her a can of mace.

Peter

I was tortured as a kid at school by bullies, until that fatefull day when the worm turned.
So when my boy came home with horror stories about being bashed every day at school I saw red.

I confronted the other boys dad and told him that if his boy touches my son again I will seriously bash him and his wife.

The bullying stopped.:cool:

Now Im a bully. :(

Al :)

Hi

My advice is to enrol your daughter in a martial art that focus' on strikes/blow/punches.

My 11yo does hapkido which employs these and uses blows very similar to law enforcement.

My motto with my son is simply

"no one ever bullies you - ever"

In the meantime show her how to punch, hard, straight to the face/nose using your hand at the bullies face level. this should become instinctive for her if you do it each day and will bring up her confidence.

Speak to the teachers about it and say you want it fixed.

Next time she is bullied tell her to hit him hard in the face twice, grab him and take him to ground continuing the strikes.

Tell her that you support her and if she gets in trouble you will tell the principle that you support her. 'No one ever bullies you- ever'

Whats the worst that can happen? Expelled? Suspended? Means nothing in the long term. Rather that than she end up with depression or worse.

My 11 yo did exactly this with a bully 20% larger than him. Doesnt get bullied no more;) .

Oh, and if anyone talks about being charged with assault, have never seen it as an issue in 18 years, specially a girl v boy

good luck

remember the motto:D

Thanks SilentC.

Wongo - yep - I do think differently to a child :) thanks for the different viewpoint to consider.

cheers
Wendy

a bunch of us were bul;lied at school by one kid, we cornered him ina toilet. ALL 9 or 10 of us. the problem stopped at that point... we DIDNT talk it out...

Silent I can relate to the bulling. My solution was that I made real good friends with the biggest toughest boy in the school who was actually a gentle giant but I never ever had any more problems in the three years at high school.

being a namby pamby does tn help. hit him back - whether you win or loose dont matter. they eventually stop if you keep hitting and showing them they can expect a fight ever time. bugger political correctness....:mad:

I wish I knew that as a kid... theres a few blokes I'd like to meet now. all 100Kg of me...:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Silent I feel your dismay, but with concerned caring parents like you it will be resolved, I wasn't bullied often as a child by other kids at school, even though we changed schools more times than I care to remember. I was bullied by my darker polynesian cousins, but not seriously enought to matter. The thing with us was/is we were brought up fairly hard, and were indifferent to school social hierachy.... didn't seem important dunno why always been like that, all that mattered was our bikes, fun and us, most other kids saw us as crazies who stuck together.
My next younger brother "A" was picked on by a alcoholic teacher in a pariochal country primary school,.... once........... he told Dad, end of bullying by that teacher anyway. Then when he follow me into high school an older boy (than me as well) went for him as he'd been unsucessful in raising any response from me, dumb choice "A" has always had and still has a mean cold streak in him, was a very quick nasty confrontation, & "A" was never ever even smart alecked again by other kids in that town.
My daughter has been bullied a few times, again nothing too serious, she's a 50kg, 150 cm tall 9 yr old, who races BMX bikes for fun:rolleyes: , apparently this helps her to handle it ok, and a coupla times SWMBO has had a quiet word with people who can fix it the right way. Also having "surrogate" big brothers from both BMX riding and from our social circle at the same school doesn't hurt my kids either, maybe thats another approach worth exploring, if available with friends or relatives nearby.

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Just got back from the school. The teacher can't really confirm or deny the allegation. He's the bad boy in class no doubt - but she thinks that could make him an easy target for blame. We know that something is troubling her. She hasn't settled down in class this year. We've arranged for a counsellor to talk to her and see if they can get to the bottom of it. As she said, things can go on in the playground that she would never be aware of but she hasn't noticed anything in class.

I saw the kid when we were there, he's not the same one I was thinking of. Looks like a little smart@rse but otherwise harmless enough - big for his age. My wife pointed to him and said "that's him". I will keep a very close eye on this. We have to be careful not to jump in boots and all.

Funny thing is I thought we wouldn't have any trouble with her, it's the son I was expecting to have the trouble with.

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Silent,
I haven't read the rest of the thread, but what you report about the teacher's response is UNACCEPTABLE.
The school has a duty of care to your daughter. No IFs no BUTs.
If they don't discharge that duty they are liable. You as a parent shouldn't have to threaden to take out an AVO against the bully before he school acts. A principled school administration will figuritively stomp on any bullies.

what ever you do, DO NOT LET THE TEACHERS / PRINCIPAL DO NOTHING

sorry for shouting

Ian

Wongo, it's the Yakuza here, but the same modus operandi no matter how old you are.

Most of them are reasonable enough, in their own way I guess.

Doesn't mean I do anything to attract attention from them though... ;)

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Silent,
I haven't read the rest of the thread, but what you report about the teacher's response is UNACCEPTABLE.
The school has a duty of care to your daughter. No IFs no BUTs.
If they don't discharge that duty they are liable. You as a parent shouldn't have to threaden to take out an AVO against the bully before he school acts. A principled school administration will figuritively stomp on any bullies.

what ever you do, DO NOT LET THE TEACHERS / PRINCIPAL DO NOTHING

sorry for shouting

Ian

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Quite right Ian

Plus an AVO only teaches a child that others will take care of thier problems for them. Plus they mean NOTHING unfortunately.

Dazzler

Thanks for the input one and all. At this point we are "monitoring the situation". The teacher is going to have a chat to her. I think it's important that we make sure something actually did happen before any steps are taken.

On bullies in general, I was talking to my wife about this yesterday. There are two types of bullies: the ones who want to show off or be accepted by their peers; and the ones who are just bad kids. The former are easy to deal with. If you stand up to them, they turn to water.

The latter are a problem. They either have a mental problem or they have been abused themselves. They are the ones who, if you stood up to them, they would be waiting for you outside the school gates and would king hit you with a lump of wood. We had a couple like that, and as I said earlier, at least one of them is in gaol. One other guy I went to school with went to Sydney a couple of years after dropping out of school. He and a mate hired a cab, got him to take them up some dark back street in Sydney, grabbed him, tied him up and put him in the boot, and set fire to the cab. He wasn't so much of a bully though, he just used to bash the teachers.

Anyway, the point is that it's not always a great idea to use force, unless you know you can handle it when things get out of hand. I just can't see my little girl, who weighs 20kg ringing wet, taking out a kid who is a foot taller and twice her weight. I'm not really sure I want her to. She's a lover not a fighter! And it would make me sad to see her turn into something else because of this. I know you have to stand up for yourself and we as parents can't just make all the problems go away, much as we'd like to.

They teach the kids to get together and tell bullies that they don't like what they are doing - try and shame them into stopping. It might work on the young and not so serious bullies. I personally think that some kids can't be helped but good on the ole education department for trying.

It's a tough one, I wish I had all the answers. My Dad thought he did when he told me to deal with it with my fists. It's easy to say but when you are a little kid faced by a big angry bully, you tend to forget your Dad's words of encouragement. As a parent, I'd like to wade in boots and all, confront the parents and the bully. But I'll go for the soft option first. We'll do it the teacher's way and see what happens. If we see no improvement, then we'll move it up a notch.

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As I have just discovered, a very worrying and frustrating time in a parent's life is when one of your kids comes home from school and tells you that they are being picked on. Yes, our 7 year old daughter has told us that an 8 year old boy, by the name of Reece, who is the biggest kid in her class (she's in a mixed class with year 1 & 2 kids), has been calling her names and picking on her in the playground. It got to the point last week where she did not want to go to school. We asked her what was wrong and she eventually told us about it.

So my first reaction is to find out who the kid is and confront his parents. I mean what sort of cowardly little #### are they raising that he gets his kicks out of picking on a little girl? Then I'd like a few moments alone in a locked room with him. I think I know who he is. I used to help out with Auskick last year and I'm pretty sure he is the same fat little ##### that I took an instant disliking to. He never did what he was told and used to bully the other kids around, especially the little ones.

Bullies are all cowards and if you confront them, they turn to water. But this guy is at least twice the size of my daughter. So, we've made an appointment to go up to the school and discuss it with her teacher. I will be suggesting that they get his parents in and have a little talk about it. I'd love to be there too. Kids usually get their behaviour from their parents one way or another. If I ever found out my son was doing something like this to a little girl, I would kick his backside so hard he wouldn't sit down for a week and then I would tell him that there is a difference between respect and fear and if he thinks that making other kids fear him is getting him any respect I will give him something to fear.

I have you in my sights now, Reece, you fat little ####.

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Had this problem when my daughter (now 27) was at school, this fat little twerp was picking on her and hurting her physically, we went to the school their solution was to make the offender sit on the steps at lunchtime didn't work. Had a word with his mum (a single mum off her head with drugs) my final solution was to lurk around the gate at knock off time and place a firm hand on his shoulder and have a little talk with him pointing out the theory of cause and effect and what would happen to him if he kept bullying my daughter. The problem stopped and we had no more problems had to use a firm hand and make sure that I left no bruises and did not get caught.

Regards

Phil

I was a big kid at school so never suffered much. That is except for one small guy, think most of his family are now enjoying housing from our justice system. He would insight a fight and if you retaliated his brothers would come and join in. Sometimes you just have to walk away from a no win situation. Those types will never let it rest and have no morals to live by.