Skin Cancer

Hello guys
I had a mole growing on my face since i was a teenager and i never worried about it .
The last 2 months or so it was getting enlarged and the missus is on my back to go to the doctor.
So the doctor gives me a referal to a dermatolagist and he checks it out not a problem greg we will cut it off and bobs your uncle,but while your here i will check your skin over
Not a problem i think until he says there is unusual skin colour change below your neck have you noticed it before ? no i say ,well the dermatoligist says we will cut it out at the same time we chop the mole off.
A week after the operations i go back today to get the stiches out he says the mole on your face was infected and that was fine but the mark under your neck was a malignent cancer ,we got it all but i will have to go back every 3 months for check ups.
guys i never thought about skin cancer till this all i want to say is get your partner to check your skin over every now and then and if you notice any change get your doctor to give you a referal to a dermatologist it might save your lifehttp://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ons/icon14.gif

greg

Glad to hear you've got a clean bill of health there Greg.

That's the same with all cancers.
Get at them early.
I've lost an Uncle through Prostrate Cancer......He did not want to know about it.
A cousin [she 'should have been my sister; long story] through Cancer of the liver.
I got cut Penis to sternum and my FGuts dumped into a Large Stainless Steel "SALAD" bowel,
while the Doctor cut out a "Suspect" section of Large intestine.

Hey!!
I'm still here annoying the 'C**p' out of Ppl 8 years later.
Get 'things' seen to, and act upon them.

You KILL them;
or
They'll KILL you!

SoapBox put away, for a while.


Ask me about my Doctor [with whom I went to school]
who has a WICKED SOH, while he was giving me a Digital Prostrate examination :eek: :eek: :o

Very important Greg. This affects thousand of Australian every year.

I can highly recommend the specialist skin check clinics. At the clinics you are checked over by a surgen. They are experts in this stuff. While GPs are O.K. many have not seen skin cancer in their practice. This means that they are normally over zealous with the removal of suspect moles, it can also mean that they miss something that is less than obvious.

I went to the skin clinic after my local GP decided that several suspect bits that needed to be taken off. The specialist checked from head to toe and said they were all O.K. but and I quote "you have rubbish euro skin and you WILL get cancers, so see you next year and every year after that".

P.S. it was all covered under medicare.

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Originally Posted by Ivan in Oz

That's the same with all cancers.
Get at them early.
I've lost an Uncle through Prostrate Cancer......He did not want to know about it.
A cousin [she 'should have been my sister; long story] through Cancer of the liver.
I got cut Penis to sternum and my FGuts dumped into a Large Stainless Steel "SALAD" bowel,
while the Doctor cut out a "Suspect" section of Large intestine.

Hey!!
I'm still here annoying the 'C**p' out of Ppl 8 years later.
Get 'things' seen to, and act upon them.

You KILL them;
or
They'll KILL you!

SoapBox put away, for a while.


Ask me about my Doctor [with whom I went to school]
who has a WICKED SOH, while he was giving me a Digital Prostrate examination :eek: :eek: :o

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Soap box taken out again.

My father is going through radical chemotherapy right now for Lukemia and Lymphoma because he brushed off symptoms last year.
I am not saying that he wouldn't be in the condition that he is now but the chances of living a few extra years would be much much better.

If you have any symptoms GET THEM CHECKED!!


Soap box put away

I had the same thing. Last October I noticed a little black lump on my arm that I had never seen before. I stared at it for three months without doing anything, then on a whim in December I went to see the local GP. The cancer had spread 1.5mm below the surface - at 3mm below the mortality rate is 85% (I believe, I never really understand medical stuff). The spot was only about 5mm across and only poked up about 1mm above the surface. If it had appeared on some other part of my body - like my back - I probably would never have noticed it.

Now I have three large scars on my arm, and like you a need to go every three months for 'lifelong surveillance' - and a realisation that I am one of the truly lucky ones. All thanks to medical people who were competent and diligent beyond any normal expectation and a state medical system that despite its many failings still comes through when it has to.

I'm also not allowed in the sun any more without long pants, long sleeves, hat, sunscreen etc - uncomfortable but not too big a price to pay.

Arron

I work out in the sun day in day out.

I never take my shirt off, never wear shorts no matter how hot it gets, it can be 40 degrees C and Ill still be covered, sure I get hot, but I look at the poor buggers working next to me all stripped off, all exposed to the sun, surely I must be cooler? :cool:

And I always wear a hat and sun screen in summer.
Ive had a couple of "things" frozen off at the Doc's too.

Al :)

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Originally Posted by ozwinner

I work out in the sun day in day out.

I never take my shirt off, never wear shorts no matter how hot it gets, it can be 40 degrees C and Ill still be covered,

And I always wear a hat and sun screen in summer.
Ive had a couple of "things" frozen off at the Doc's too.

Al :)

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No wonder you live in Victoria - you must be a mexican.

Is that a sombrero you refered to as a hat

I used to have a dark spot on my little finger that started to get real itchy and appeared to be spreading. So I went to my local gp to have it looked at. The regular guy wasn't there so I saw the other guy. He said it's probably nothing and don't worry about it. The reader digest version (shortened) I said screw you, "probably" ain't good enough. I'll come back when your boss is here and have him do it. I actually got quite belligerent with the guy and walked out before he could reply. You have to be 110% certain or don't mess with my health.

Had the other doctor burn it off with nitrogen.

You have to try Can-sema (see my sig below for link). It has been the only thing that has cured my skin cancer. There is stuff at the doctors office but it's way more expensive and this works better. Good luck!

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I used to have a dark spot on my little finger that started to get real itchy and appeared to be spreading. So I went to my local gp to have it looked at. The regular guy wasn't there so I saw the other guy. He said it's probably nothing and don't worry about it. The reader digest version (shortened) I said screw you, "probably" ain't good enough. I'll come back when your boss is here and have him do it. I actually got quite belligerent with the guy and walked out before he could reply. You have to be 110% certain or don't mess with my health.

Had the other doctor burn it off with nitrogen.

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I had surgery twice and they told me my edges were clear. It came back as basal cell after the expensive surgeries. I heard about this stuff Can-Sema and there are thousands of testimonies. It's been the only thing that has kept my cancer from coming back. It only recognizes cancerous tissue and then attacks it to the root.

nomoe - nopage to the link - noloss I reckon.

Cheers,

P :rolleyes:

Mid last year my bro-in-law and best mate finally went and had a little lump on his tongue checked out, he'd been ignoring it for about 12 months, and it was cancer. He ended up having massive surgery and we ended up losing him this year.

Moral of this whole post "If in doubt check it out".

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Originally Posted by nomoe

I had surgery twice and they told me my edges were clear. It came back as basal cell after the expensive surgeries. I heard about this stuff Can-Sema and there are thousands of testimonies. It's been the only thing that has kept my cancer from coming back. It only recognizes cancerous tissue and then attacks it to the root.

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Mate, your advice is dangerous and immoral. I know that the common 'superficial spreading melanomas' are not that dangerous and can be tolerated for a while, but if you get one of the serious types you have just days or weeks till you go over the boundary between when you can and cannot be treated. Once the metastasing cancer cells spread to other parts of your body there is no effective cure - and your average time left on this earth is about 11 months. No untested, unproven herbal remedy has any place in the management of this problem. You are not selling it, by any chance, are you ?

I sincerely hope no-one takes this guy seriously, and gets medical advice if in any doubt.

Arron

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Originally Posted by nomoe

It only recognizes cancerous tissue and then attacks it to the root.

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You must be kidding???
All the money spent on research by dozens of multi million dollar companys, and all I need are some herbs.

Get real, Wanker.

Al :mad:

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Originally Posted by nomoe

You have to try Can-sema (see my sig below for link). It has been the only thing that has cured my skin cancer. There is stuff at the doctors office but it's way more expensive and this works better. Good luck!

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Man, are you deluded. or worse. Please don't try and peddle this crap here.:mad:

Warmest regards

Greg

I hope nomoe is not put off by the eloquent(?) ridicule and name calling, because he has introduced you to a cure (actually the North American Indians did centuries ago) that actually works without necessarily having to resort to " better" and "proven" medical solutions. Cansema has wiped out a cancer on the back of my hand in two easy applications after 3 attempts by my doctor failed to eradicate it. There is no scar left. It has removed several from my wife's arm, shoulder and back that she had been assured by a doctor and a dermatologist were gone; but were not (again, after frequent attempts by doctors to remove them with nitrogen freezing.)
An elderly neighbour with a cancerous lesion on the top of her head quite independently told us that her doctor was treating her with Cansema and subsequently told us and showed us that it was totally gone.
A friend of ours who is a doctor (but not our personal doctor), who enjoys the outdoors and triathalons, has had frequent skin cancers and has had them cut out. They grew back. He began using Cansema and the growths were destroyed.
It may not work in one application : it may take several, but it works, and without the disfiguring scarring and the expense.
By all means, seek expert advice and have your skin checked by specialists (we do), but do not turn a blind eye to a cure that actually works for cancers while the recognized medical methods do not always.
The method of treatment is your choice .
The web address for the curious, concerned or the self-proclaimed experts in the field is: www.altcancer.com/ or users.mrbean.net.au/~wlast/cansema.html or simply enter alpha omega laboratories into your search engine.
I hope no one takes Arron seriously. You are not a spokesman for the mainstream medical profession or the drug companies, are you?
By the way, we don't sell Cansema, we simply use it for it's qualities as an effective cure.
If you were around in the 1930's would you have put down penicillin the same way. Treating infections with a mould? Come on guys, get real.
Ozwinner refers to research by multimillion dollar companies for cancer cures. They do this to make multi multi millions of dollars of profit.
For example recent research shows that sugar water is just as effective as expensive cough remedies and it does not suppress the body's natural defences as these "miracle" remedies do.
We might ask gregoryq who the deluded one is.

P.S. Do we have to stoop to name calling to make our point?

Good on ya, nomoe! Sorry I didn't catch your comments earlier

Out of interest only, I just googled andrographis and graviola, the 2 principal constituents of Cansema and found info that states andrographis is herb known to assist the effectiveness of the human immune system. The information states it is used a traditional Chinese remedy for the common cold. Graviola is harvested from graviola trees in the amazon rainforest and is said to be effective in the treatment of cancer.

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Main Actions (in order):
anticancerous, antitumorous, antimicrobial, antiparasitic, hypotensive (lowers blood pressure) Main Uses:

1. for cancer (all types)
2. as a broad-spectrum internal and external antimicrobial to treat bacterial and fungal infections
3. for internal parasites and worms
4. for high blood pressure
5. for depression, stress, and nervous disorders

Properties/Actions Documented by Research:
antibacterial, anticancerous, anticonvulsant, antidepressant, antifungal, antimalarial, antimutagenic (cellular protector), antiparasitic, antispasmodic, antitumorous, cardiodepressant, emetic (causes vomiting), hypotensive (lowers blood pressure), insecticidal, sedative, uterine stimulant, vasodilator Other Properties/Actions Documented by Traditional Use:
antiviral, cardiotonic (tones, balances, strengthens the heart), decongestant, digestive stimulant, febrifuge (reduces fever), nervine (balances/calms nerves), pediculicide (kills lice), vermifuge (expels worms)
Cautions: It has cardiodepressant, vasodilator, and hypotensive (lowers blood pressure) actions. Large dosages can cause nausea and vomiting. Avoid combining with ATP-enhancers like CoQ10.
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I post this with no comment other than I am not a medical person so am not qualified in any way to comment one way or t'other on this.
Cheers
My interest is that my brother had his complete stomach removed before christmas and is currently having chemotherapy to kill off the other tumours they found when they opened him up. I guess if chemo doesn't work for him he'll try soemthing else. What would he have to lose with only 4 or 5 more years to live anyway. *Shrugs*

thanks for the info shed hand i go back for a check up in a month or sooner if possible
i have a funny feeling the malignent one is back on my neck again there is a lump forming again were they cut the last out:mad:

[QUOTE=glenmackinnon]I hope nomoe is not put off by the eloquent(?) ridicule and name calling, because he has introduced you to a cure (actually the North American Indians did centuries ago)

Yeah? Really. How the hell did the North American indians get stuff from the Amazon? The average age of death of skeletons examined in a wide-ranging study in the Great Lakes area was around 33.

that actually works without necessarily having to resort to " better" and "proven" medical solutions.

There's a reason why the scientific world insists on proof. Proof is easy-you can count, you can prove. If you can't show that the numbers of cures is not more than a statistical aberation, then it doesn't work.

Cansema has wiped out a cancer on the back of my hand in two easy applications after 3 attempts by my doctor failed to eradicate it. There is no scar left. It has removed several from my wife's arm, shoulder and back that she had been assured by a doctor and a dermatologist were gone; but were not (again, after frequent attempts by doctors to remove them with nitrogen freezing.)

Good. I am happy for you. No sarcasm. What is your doctor's name and phone number, and will you allow him to discuss your medical records?

It may not work in one application : it may take several, but it works, and without the disfiguring scarring and the expense.

Why? Is it free?

By all means, seek expert advice and have your skin checked by specialists (we do), but do not turn a blind eye to a cure that actually works for cancers while the recognized medical methods do not always.
The method of treatment is your choice .
The web address for the curious, concerned or the self-proclaimed experts in the field is: www.altcancer.com/ or users.mrbean.net.au/~wlast/cansema.html or simply enter alpha omega laboratories into your search engine.

I hope no one takes Arron seriously. You are not a spokesman for the mainstream medical profession or the drug companies, are you?
By the way, we don't sell Cansema, we simply use it for it's qualities as an effective cure.
If you were around in the 1930's would you have put down penicillin the same way. Treating infections with a mould? Come on guys, get real.

Actually, I wouldn't have. You can easily see the action of the mold on the bacteria in the petrie dish. Can the same be said of this stuff?

Ozwinner refers to research by multimillion dollar companies for cancer cures. They do this to make multi multi millions of dollars of profit.

Actually, since there are no cancer "cures", they don't make a zack in profits.
Almost all direct cancer research is conducted at public institutions. This is how we end up with therapies and , now, vacines for some cancers.
Pharmaceutical companies are busy making Viagra.

For example recent research shows that sugar water is just as effective as expensive cough remedies and it does not suppress the body's natural defences as these "miracle" remedies do.

What the hell do over the counter cough 'remedies' have to do with this? Everybody with a brain knows that they are mostly over-priced snake oil*, and not marketed my main stream pharmaceutical companies.
*although they do have a powerful placebo effect.

Well might we might ask gregoryq who the deluded one is.

That's easy: Its the Governor General.:p

I am not a Pharmaceutical company employee, nor do I play one on TV. I think that big pharma has a lot to answer for. But not about this.

Finally, if you think that this stuff is curing or otherwise surpressing your cancerous growths then great. Thanks for sharing.

Whoopsie,

I was going to mention "DEVIL'S APPLES":eek:
but am having 2nd thoughts:o

NO!!
Not the Russian potatoes and their superstitions:cool:

Who on Earth would lick Willow Bark to get rid on Headaches, is that being silly or what? :confused:

What else is there?
Maybe a cure for.....????????

http://home.it.net.au/~wmbest/mo-month/mom-2-97.htm
http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/11571.cfm?recordid=403

Let me be clear on this:

Almost everything that was useful in medicine originally came from a natural source. I have no argument with nature, nor with new ideas.

I mentioned the placebo effect. It is so strong that it must be considered in experiments, and factored out with blind studies. It is real, that's why anecdotal evidence is useless. If I have ruined anybody's placebo effect with this stuff I apologise. I remember reading a study proving that vitamin C doesn't really help with colds, and now all of my colds last longer.:confused:

To demand proof of a claim is the scientific method, and the way actual advances are made, and blind alleys avoided.

With something as important as health care, is a little independant verification too much to ask?

Best,

Greg

I would suggest that you seek medical advice (there's a reason why we have to train for so many years...). Or visit the website (or call) your local Cancer Council (non-Government, not for proft charities that are independent in their advice and reputable).

Unproven remedies are just that - unfortunately people prey on vulnerabilities and since cancer has an average survivorship of around 63%, that means "business" to some people. Rigorous research (clinical trials that are randomised control trials - double blind peer reviewed) need to be conducted to make sure these "agents of cure" don't do more harm than good.

If this "cure" was so great - why has it not been published in the Lancet or the New England Medical Journal - where is the international fame and fortune that comes with "cures"?? Why isn't it endorsed by the Cancer Councils, the TGA (therapeutic goods administration that approves all new drugs), the AMA (australian medical association)? You'd think pharm reps would be giving it out to GPs and swinging from the rafters!

My advice - take caution! As a researcher working in oncology, I have heard it all - we get people ringing the Cancer Helpline with cures every day - ranging from ingestion of sea cucumbers to standing on your head for 10 mins each morning whilst smelling lavender. The one that hit the news recently was Dr Holt using microwave therapy to cure cancer - well, after the trial was conducted, his "cure" ended up doing more harm than good (as people abandoned their treatments to undertake microwave therapy instead and are now worse off in their prognosis). Don't get me wrong, I would love a cure for cancer and in fact that's what people like Professor Ian Frazer have done - funded in part by a grant from the QLD Cancer Fund - he has developed a vaccine for cervical cancer. Tried and tested - he's up for a Nobel prize! Now we just have to have treatments for the other 200 or so cancers left...

BTW- you don't need a DRE (digital rectal examination) any more to detect an enlarged prostate! Get a blood test, which checks for PSA (prostate specific antigen) - unless you prefer the latter....

Cheers
Dan

Have a metaphoric greenie from me Dan (I just wasted a real one on some wood stuff you did!)

P
:D

Have a real one from me.;)

Is the PSA test now accepted as all that is required? I heard a health minute on ABC radio that suggested the best protection is now a combination of the lab work and the goldfinger routine.

Greg

There are some natural remidies that do work better than prescribed medicine
For instance huon pine , if you take a piece to the shed and just touch , smell , or shape it, make something from it then it is more calming than taking any amount of valium

Same goes for rosewood , silver oak, cedar, king billy ........

Ha! I just saw this from Ashore on my email, and thought he had written "Viagra":p

I agree. Huon is better than Valium. Not so sure about Ibepoken

Greg

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Well if you don't know who ubepoken then I'm darn sure I dont. :rolleyes:

Sorry. I thought that was the generic name for Viagra. No?;)

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thanks for the info shed hand i go back for a check up in a month or sooner if possible
i have a funny feeling the malignent one is back on my neck again there is a lump forming again were they cut the last out:mad:

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Good luck with it Farm Boy. Staying positive is half the battle.:o
Cheers

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Originally Posted by Ashore

There are some natural remidies that do work better than prescribed medicine
For instance huon pine , if you take a piece to the shed and just touch , smell , or shape it, make something from it then it is more calming than taking any amount of valium

Same goes for rosewood , silver oak, cedar, king billy ........

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A greenie for you mate.

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Originally Posted by Farm boy

Hello guys
I had a mole growing on my face since i was a teenager and i never worried about it .

greg

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Greg great to hear your ok:D personaly iv never been to fussed when iv had a mole on my face;)

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Originally Posted by ozwinner

You must be kidding???
All the money spent on research by dozens of multi million dollar companys, and all I need are some herbs.

Get real, Wanker.

Al :mad:

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Al give me the herb anyday over other stuff;) ;) ;) ;)

I had a melanoma on my arm 20 years ago, it was only small but had it hacked out, it was massive underneath but benign.
As for cancer cures, I think the only one that has been overlooked was the now retired Dr John Holt with his contraversial methods which seem to have worked.
He made no secret of it and appeared to be a credible gentleman who abided by the Hippocratic Oath.

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My advice - take caution!

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3 times a day before a meal.

Al :)

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3 times a day before a meal.

Al :)

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Just finished my first stubby of "Caution", I only drink it for the vitamin B in the brewers yeast. ;)

http://www.prostatehealth.org.au/v3/index.htm

This website will give you all the best prostate advice and more! Depending on a number of factors, (age, family history, previous PSA results etc) depends on whether you personally need a PSA and a DRE.

PS Dr John Holt, whilst a gentleman with the very best of intentions, has undergone a clinical trial to prove his treatment of microwave therapy for cancer and unfortunately, it has been disproven.

In September 2004, the National Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC) commenced a review of the therapeutic effectiveness and safety of microwave therapy. This investigation, lasting almost a year, was an extensive study of microwave therapy by leading Australian cancer experts.
The investigation comprised four parts:

- A systematic review of scientific literature;
- A national public consultation involving patients, clinicians and other interested parties;
- An audit of Dr Holt’s patient records between 1973 and 2003; and
- A study comparing Dr Holt’s patients with other similar patients treated with conventional therapies.

The results of this investigation have now been released. In brief, the investigation has found there is no evidence Dr Holt’s treatment is superior to conventional cancer treatment. There was also evidence that for many patients, Dr Holt’s treatment was inferior.
Specifically, the report found:
- There is no high-quality published scientific evidence showing therapeutic benefits of Dr Holt’s type of therapy;
- The treatment made no difference to the survival, disease control or quality of life for patients with head and neck, colorectal and bladder cancer;
- The treatment was inferior in disease control and survival for patients with breast cancer, lung cancer, lymphoma and prostate cancer; and
- There was insufficient information to make a reliable assessment of the safety of Dr Holt’s therapy.

If you are interested in more information about the investigation, a detailed report is available at the NHMRC’s website http://nhmrc.gov.au/advice/consumers/microwave.htm


Cheers
Dan

Thanks Dan & Gregoryq for some sane advice. There are always quacks pushing their natural, herbal, traditional, alternative, whatever remedies to people who are desparate. Why wouldn't these things be put up to be tested rigourously if the makers/sellers have any confidence in them?

If it makes you happy, go and have your placebo, and if it makes you feel better, good for you. But it's irresponsible to rubbish things that have been tested and push something that hasn't.

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BTW- you don't need a DRE (digital rectal examination) any more to detect an enlarged prostate! Get a blood test, which checks for PSA (prostate specific antigen) - unless you prefer the latter....

Cheers
Dan

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Thanks for that update, Dan:D

Isn't it amazing that so many people make judicious comments on something they know nothing about and have not personally tried. We can all quote from the internet to back our point of view.
"... it is irresponsible to rubbish things that have been tested and push something that hasn't" . AlexS
It is equally irresponsible to rubbish something that numerous testimonials and statements on websites support. These catagorically state that these products ( andrographis and graviola ) are effective in the treatment of various cancers. I would suggest that people in the research field should take notice of this and conduct some tests instead of dismissing it out of hand. Many things that have been tested and promoted have subsequently been proven to be quite ineffectual and /or sometimes harmful. eg Thalidamide.
Alex, I am not some quack 'pushing' anything. I am simply supporting nomoe's statement that Cansema works. It has for us too. Nor am I trying to convince anyone to abandon standard medical procedures. I am simply saying that if conventional methods do not work, here is something that worked for us and has for many others. I strongly recommend that use of this product be followed up by a checkup by your medical specialist or even with the assistance of your medical specialist if he/she is open minded.
Gregoryq can talk nonsense all he wants about the placebo effect. After all, it is a free country. I assume that I also have the freedom to express an opinion and make a statement that is positive about the effects of this product.
By the way Greg, the North American Indians got this product (graviola -a component of Cansema) the same way they got potatoes, tomatoes, corn (maize), peppers, etc. which all originated in Central and South America - through trade. They were not ignorant savages and they had well established trade routes. Also, the average life span of the Great Lakes(Woodland) Native Americans was 36 to 40.This average includes their high infant mortality rate. How does that compare to Europeans of the day? But what bearing has this in getting "stuff from the Amazon" ?
If you want proof of the effectiveness of Cansema then 1) try it yourself and/or 2) encourage Dan and his mates to research and test it as a possible treatment so that it can be proven or disproven as an effective treatment for some cancers.
What's this bit about sarcasm, Greg! You expect me to give you access
to my personal medical files. Ya, sure mate!
Try reading some of the testimonials, some with actual photos of the process, made by doctors, chiropractors and the general public, that are
available on the web.
You ask if Cansema is free, Greg. No it is not free and not covered my Medicare or any health scheme. It is just a very small fraction of the cost of other options.
The petrie dish analogy? Yes the same can be said about this stuff. Try it on a skin cancer and observe. It will certainly do you no harm and will not effect healthy tissue. It you can surgically remove some cancer cells
from a skin cancer and keep them alive, by all means put them in a petrie dish and try it.
Actually pharmaceutical companies do spend millions on cancer research. Imagine the profits if they could patent and market an effective treatment. There's no great profit in Cansema however. It uses natural ingredients which cannot be patented.
Hope you find this information useful and remember Don't Put It Off!
Get to a medical specialist immediately if there's any change in your skin.
That especially applies to men who are reluctant to go to a doctor until it's too late.

You know bud, I was going to give you a long winded reply, and compare your statements to my answers, then compare my degrees in Biology and Chemistry to yours, then ask if you think the Oncology researcher who
replied was also wrong. Oh yeah, I was going to point out that your romantic
ideas of NA native tribal life were a little out of touch with reality. (My wife was an Anthropologist with a background in all of this).

I asked about your medical records in reply to your offering your medical story about your wonderful cure. No, huh? I was being rhetorical.

On the other hand....this is a Sisyphean task, and I don't care anymore.

You're making me rather cross with your responses there GlenMackinnon. Yes, Penicillin underwent extensive trials and evaluation - I would advise the same with this "cure". We have many drugs that have been derived from nature, there is no doubt of that, but my point is that they need to prove they work without ripping people off or worse, harming them further. Haven't patients and their families been through enough psychosocial trauma without pinning their hopes on another "cure"?

"It is equally irresponsible to rubbish something that numerous testimonials and statements on websites support." I personally think it is irresponsible to advocate for the use of a product that has not passed stringent clinical tests and evaluation! Put your money where your mouth is and commence a trial of the product's effectiveness. How do you know whether you're advocating for a product that does more harm than good? Will you ever post to this bulletin board apologising for those that you have harmed as well as the testimonials of the cured?

Oncology researchers, like myself, don't go wandering around bumping into the furniture looking for cures - you need to put up a proposal and fund it's evaluation! If you're so confident of it's efficacy, this is the BEST evidence you will get in terms of marketing and "feeling good" that you are curing skin cancers.

"In the orthodox community this question refers to a "longitudinal, peer-reviewed, double-blind study with carefully monitored control groups, using strict statistics measures..." bla, bla, bla, bla. How many have we done? Not a damn one. And we proudly never intend to" - I think you have just shot yourself in the foot with this one!

Your website has a handful of testimonials... your sample size needs to be larger than double figures, needs to include a cross section of society (randomised) and various types of skin cancer. Get real mate! I checked out the website and where are the links to trials and real data? Out of the thousands that have bought and tried your product, how many were cured out of those? I would love to see a cure, but a website that peddles paranoia with quotes from the 50s, 60s and 70s needs to get on with itself..."suppression pages"! Sheesh!

Can I remind you of how much anguish was caused by thalidomide before it the isomer that is beneficial was discovered?

"Pity... On New Year's Day, 2,100 A.D. this product will still not be approved by the FDA." - you said it!!!!

I am referring to "you" in thsi post, I am assuming that you are part of this consortium as well. Apologies if you are not part of the sale or promotion of this product, I just picked up on the personal pronouns you used in reference to the product.

BTW - it's Dan and HER mates.

Maybe just stick to woodworking questions and answers - tell us about how great the Ubeaut products are and which timbers you have been playing with lately.

Cheers
Dan