Printable View
Are we supposed to tip people these days in Australia?:? I don't bother asking for change from the pizza boy, but they always give me a dirty look because I don't give them another $5 or something. The look I got tonight was like I had told him he was a meager peasant and to go *^#! himself.:~
Was he? and did he?Quote:
Originally Posted by martrix
I woudlnt even consider in my wildest dreams tipping people.
Its like begging, didnt they pass laws to ban begging?
If they need more money, get a better paying job, dont beg.
Al :)
Man did i get in some crap when i forgot just once in the US. What a tantrum !! No way in hell will i do it here though...if the money isnt good enough then get another job...ive done it all my life & it has worked very well.
This is what the board thought 18 months ago.
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...&highlight=tip
I expect the sentiment is pretty much the same but perhaps it's time for an update?
This is not the U.S.A., so no tipping from me!!:)
Maybe with AWA's and wages on the way down in the low-paid areas, people are starting to expect a tip? Have Americans been tipping for ever, or did it come about say around the 60's-70's?
I like to give tips if I get quality service. I feel someone deserves reward for doing over and above what they get paid for.
I used to be a chemist boy, and I used to drive a cab and I appreciated a tip. About one in ten passengers would round it up to the next dollar. One in twenty might give you an extra buck, occasionally a bit more.
My young son delivered pizzas, and now manages a Dominos.
For a pizza or cab ride, I'd round it up, unless it was less than 50c, I'd go an extra dollar. In a restaurant I'd add about five or ten percent unless they weren't up to scratch. If a busker is good, I might throw a dollar or two. A few coins in the tip jar at the pub sometimes. The NRMA guy (I've had to use him a few times) gets five or ten bucks for a beer.
I'm not rich enough to use bellhops, but I'd imagine it would be customary to tip them even here in Australia. Does anyone leave beer out for the garbos anymore? I must remember that this year if I can catch him. :)
Having said that, if you don't want to tip, don't tip. You shouldn't have to and you shouldn't get any greasy looks for it.
I don't like the seppo system where it's just added on to restaurant bills. Why call it a tip if it's involuntary?
Americans have been tipping forever, but it has gotten worse since about the 1980's and 1990's. With the advent of Starbucks and widespread food delivery, tipping here has gotten out of hand. The restaurant workers are only paid a small wage, so they need tipping to make ends meet. But tipping the Starbucks clerk is ridiculous, as they get regular wages. [NB: I do not drink coffee, so am no patron of Starbucks.]Quote:
Originally Posted by martrix
Bartenders likewise depend on tips. But, in contrast to a post in the other tipping thread from someone wh said they brought home $20 or $30 extra a night, a good bartender here on a busy night will make $200 to $400. :oo:
Hairdressers, cabbies, delivery persons, everyone seems to have their hand out. I find it demeaning to the worker and irritating to the customer.
I wish we could kick the habit and pay real wages but I fear it is so ingrained by now that there is no hope.
Its now just a bloke in a truck who tries to tip your bin over when he uses the mechanical arm to throw it back onto the ground ..... hardly worth chasing him down the street for a christmas beer. In the old days of manual pick up and all that running perhaps a beer or two would be in order.Quote:
Originally Posted by pawnhead
I wait to see if they are going to make a real attempt at getting the change. If they give the impression that they are looking for the right change to give me I let them have it. The ones that do the fake giggle of the coin bag pretending that they are having a hard time finding the correct change in the hope that I will say forget it ..... I wait and wait and finally get my change :oQuote:
Originally Posted by martrix
I just give them hugs and kisses...big sloppy kisses :p
:D Yeah, that sounds exactly like my experiences. Its like a little game every time it comes to paying. I usually take the Bart Simpson methodology 'Do what you feel man' on the night, fake bum bag shuffle or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Stinkalot
prolly shouldn't order pizza so often.:rolleyes:
Sometimes I drop a few in the tip jar - cause we all like a good Christmas -up. But generally if I like the restaraunt I take the plates back to the kitchen - just my way of saying thankyou. I did give this old fella in a pub kitchen a tip once and told me to eff off!!!!! All I said was do you want a tip? And when he said yeh, I said don't park your car in the sun. Go figure :rolleyes:
Oh dear, I'm reminded of last Christmas when the Lion's Club 'Father Christmas' came around selling Christmas cakes. Now I like the Lion's fruit cake, and don't mind supporting the Lions, and the lass was with me, so I takes me wee daughter out to "Father Christmas" and buy a cake from him. The bastard asked if she was enjoying buying a cake with GRANDPA :o "I'm her bloody father you dill!" Well, I expressed it a bit more politely than that, but that Father Christmas had genuinely red cheeks :UQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir Stinkalot
But back on topic. I don't tip. Sometimes (such as at the soccer club) I'll leave the change for the club, but volunteers at places like that tend to chase you with your change.
As for the yank system. It stinks. Pay the poor beggars a decent wage in the first place and leave tipping as a reward for extra good service. Sadly, the concept of 'service' is fast being lost, let along 'good service' and 'extra good service'. I reward good service with repeat business, which makes the boss rich but I reckon that's helping the poor bugger in the front line keep his job.
Want to know a really good way of embarressing a store manager? Tell him one of his staff are doing a damned good job and that's why he's getting repeat business - most don't know how to handle it.
Richard
I used to work in the hospitality industry in the 70's and the pay was so low that you needed the tips to survive. The better service you gave a client the better the tips.
At one restaraunt - Milano's in brissy the better waiters could make $200 a night each in tips - that was 1976! when your wage was about $270 per week.
Consequently I always leave a tip of about 10% when dining unless I'm not happy.
I find it hard to give a Concierge or the bloke that valet parks the car or takes your bag up to your room a tip... it just seems odd to fork out money for a tip by itself instead of adding it to a bill.
I generally have stopped tipping taxi's as most of them are sullen bums, cant speak my language or just want to milk my fare for as much as they can - the odd good one will get a tip.