Who'd wanta be a Cop?

[echnidna]

In the last few days cops have been attacked with a chainsaw and an axe.

The axeman got shot and died. Now I suppose the Cops that were involved might get hauled over the coals.

In demonstrations they are often targets for the loonies.

Its a pretty thankless job

Thank you to all the Cops that do societies dirty work

[jmk89]

Especially as we ask them not only to be brave on our behalf but also to be incorruptible - if you want someone not to take a bribe, or a second job, pay him enough...

[Gumby]

My brother is a cop. He was told years ago to transfer his home into his wife's name in case some feral unwashed hippie left wing loon sued him for doing his job and protecting other peoples property.

What is the world coming to ? :(

[swiftden]

I am a police officer and yes the job can be tough, yes we do deal with some fair idiots that threaten us and those we love. But having said that there are alot of rewarding parts of the job. You do how ever take precautions about keeping those you love safe as ya never know when someone will target you and your own.

[ss_11000]

who'd want to be a cop?
me:p ..me and a friend have been looking into going into the police force or asio or MI.

cheers

[Glenn_M]

Who'd wanta be a Cop?

No me, but I very grateful to those that are or want to be. Hats off to you!

Glenn

[Gumby]

me:p ..me and a friend have been looking into going into the police force or asio or MI.

cheers

Nah, stick to the evil side like Kaos.
(sorry about that Chief)

It's better pay. :D

[ozwinner]

me:p ..me and a friend have been looking into going into the police force or asio or MI.

cheers

Good on ya Stirlo, and a fine choice of job too.

Al :2tsup:

[ss_11000]

Nah, stick to the evil side like Kaos.
(sorry about that Chief)

It's better pay. :D
tempting:U :rolleyes: .

[swiftden]

Every day you are presented with the same jobs but they are always different in there approach and out comes. sometimes you find it quite a challenge both mentally and physically. There are times when you think why me and others when ya cant wait to sink ya teeth into the next job.

[dadpad]

Swimbo worked for ASIO.




So watch yerselves!

[Groggy]

Swimbo worked for ASIO.ASIO or the Water Police? :D

[ozwinner]

Swimbo worked for ASIO.

Are Silviculterists Inert Overt

Al :p

[stevebaby]

My brother is a cop. He was told years ago to transfer his home into his wife's name in case some feral unwashed hippie left wing loon sued him for doing his job and protecting other peoples property.

What is the world coming to ? :(While the police force as an organisation can be sued, individual officers cannot. They have immunity for anything done on the job.
It's also very difficult to sue the Police Force.

[craigb]

They have immunity for anything done on the job.


That's not actually a true statement. Have you heard abot the Palm Island affair in QLD?

That copper has been charged with manslaughter.

And no, I'm not making any judgements, that's what courts are for, merely pointing out that coppers can be, and are, held responsible for their actions on the job.

Having said that, I think that i's a pretty thankless job. I'm glad that there are people of integrity who are prepared to do it.

[Big Shed]

There is a difference with suieng someone and charging him with manslaughter.

One is a civil matter, the other is a criminal matter.

[Gumby]

While the police force as an organisation can be sued, individual officers cannot. They have immunity for anything done on the job.
It's also very difficult to sue the Police Force.

Then please explain the Police Association's position and their recommendation that you own nothing in your own name.

[stevebaby]

That's not actually a true statement. Have you heard abot the Palm Island affair in QLD?

That copper has been charged with manslaughter.

And no, I'm not making any judgements, that's what courts are for, merely pointing out that coppers can be, and are, held responsible for their actions on the job.

Having said that, I think that i's a pretty thankless job. I'm glad that there are people of integrity who are prepared to do it. The sergeant in the Palm Island affair isn't being sued though. Individual officers are immune from civil suits. Nobody is going to take their houses.Read the Police Immunity Act if you don't believe me.
Also the Law Enforcement Controlled Operations Act.

[echnidna]

Stevebaby is from craggy island maybe different laws in different states

[craigb]

Stevebaby,

The thrust of your arguement as I read it was that cops weren't individually responsible (sueable) for their actions. Clearly this is not the case.

I have no idea what their liability is in civil matters. However, I would suspect that the courts would and should treat them the same as any other citizen.

Perhaps we need Boban to enlighten us here?

[Lignum]

But look on the bright side, free hamburgers, extra cash if you join the drug squad, inside info on where the booze busses are, get to play with tazers and shoot naughty people, and if your that way inclined dress up as a girlie and walk in the pride march, secret back door pay rises from the fish.... Why did i becone a furniture maker:( :rolleyes: :)

[echnidna]

Enlist now Lignum,
you even get free entry into the footy
(but ya gotta watch the audience not the game)

[Lignum]

Enlist now Lignum,
you even get free entry into the footy
(but ya gotta watch the audience not the game)


My luck id be posted to collingwood games. But it would have been ok today in Sydney to wack a few silly protesters:wink:

[stevebaby]

Then please explain the Police Association's position and their recommendation that you own nothing in your own name.Ask them.

[Bleedin Thumb]

I'm going to gag soon. All this ain't cops great!!!
I know there are a few cops on this forum and there is not one of them that I have taken any objection to what they're said.
I don't have a problem with people who become police I know a couple and they're great guys (and a gal).



Its just I hate the police.

There I've said it. I grew up in Qld in the 70's. REMEMBER what it was like.

It was illegal to congregate.
They hassled you constantly for just being a teenager.
You got verballed.
They fitted you up.
They were corrupt.
They were crooked.
They were bent.
And they were mean bastards.:((

So you guys can all go on about how good cops are, and I admit they have come along way, but there is still a lot of crap goes on that I don't agree with, and I doubt that the coppers that frequent this forum would be able to honestly say that they haven't heard of or directly known of dodgy behavour by other cops.

I don't mean to offend the serving members here, I'm sure that your all thick skinned enough or heard the rant before. Just had to provide another view on this love fest.
I think I'm about to get roasted.:(

[Lignum]

I'm going to gag soon. All this ain't cops great!!!


. I grew up in Qld in the 70's. REMEMBER what it was like.



And i spent 5 years from 80-85 in QLD and share your "pain" Everything from being locked up from sitting pi$$ed up in a tree (crime of the century) to having a severly brused heel from being kicked (whilst sound asleep) in one of their heroic 5am raids looking for a gram of what ever that was non existent in the first place. :doh:

[Gumby]

Ask them.

Why ? They aren't the ones saying he Police have nothing to fear. You are.

[Metal Head]

It must be really frustrating dealing with some of the low lifes with have in our community. I would certainly be tempted (if I was a copper) to take the law into my hands and fix up the problem before it got to court.

However, I do wonder why do they have to shoot people in the chest. In the RAF (U.K.) we were taught unless the dangerous person had a gun/rifle, to shoot them in legs/knee caps. Not only does it get them on the ground but they are in so much pain they lose their grip on the offensive weapon:wink:. At least the loved one's will still be able to see them as well as give them a helping hand.

[journeyman Mick]

Whilst I'm glad that there are people of integrity prepared to be police I too remember the "good old" days in Qld. As a kid I saw four cops drag a suspect up some stairs by the heels, his head bouncing on the steps. This was after they had held him in a head lock in the back of a car for so long he was literally blue in the face (apparently for over an hour from the other end of the tablelands) There was a fair bit of blood on the stairs. Then there was a lot of thumping and bashing noises from the little high set wooden police station (amplifies sound) Lots of thumping and screaming. I had been sent to the station to pick up a permit and had to wait there while all this went on.

Then there was the local seargeant, who was collecting protection money from all the local drug growers. His wife used to come to my aunt (good friends) in tears because she kept finding huge wads of cash in the house. He's retired now and owns a hell of a lot of real estate in SW Qld, much more than could possibly be bought with a policeman's wages.

And then there was another sergeant who was caught cattle duffing. His daughter was into horses and he kept a large truck with a cattle crate on the back to "move her horses". The stock squad caught him, but he was not charged, he got moved out west (into cattle country:o )

Also WRT the Palm Island case (and I've got some interesting insights from a friend who worked there for longer than the accused did, which I obviously can't share because the case hasn't gone to court) if he is found guilty in the criminal case, then a civil case could very likely be brought against him. As a rural fire officer I am protected by legislation also but if I break the rules I'm no longer immune from prosecution or civil action.

Mick

[craigb]

Let's all hope the bad old days are gone.

For sure, the cops didn't get too many plaudits in the '70's if you were a hippy (like me).

However, that was then.....

[dazzler]

I'm going to gag soon. All this ain't cops great!!!
I know there are a few cops on this forum and there is not one of them that I have taken any objection to what they're said.
I don't have a problem with people who become police I know a couple and they're great guys (and a gal).



Its just I hate the police.

There I've said it. I grew up in Qld in the 70's. REMEMBER what it was like.

It was illegal to congregate.
They hassled you constantly for just being a teenager.
You got verballed.
They fitted you up.
They were corrupt.
They were crooked.
They were bent.
And they were mean bastards.:((

So you guys can all go on about how good cops are, and I admit they have come along way, but there is still a lot of crap goes on that I don't agree with, and I doubt that the coppers that frequent this forum would be able to honestly say that they haven't heard of or directly known of dodgy behavour by other cops.

I don't mean to offend the serving members here, I'm sure that your all thick skinned enough or heard the rant before. Just had to provide another view on this love fest.
I think I'm about to get roasted.:(


Hi Bleedin

Well I was till last december and if I was around in the seventies I would have behaved the same. Had I been a junior and gone to CIB in manly or the drug and vice squad where corrupt behaviour went on then I would have been corrupt.

I have belted people who needed a belting, have sped gratuitously cause I could, played up with my mates on the grog cause it was our town and we watched each others back, covered my back and my mates with Internal Affairs and generally had a wow of a time.

I have also kept a kid alive for twenty minutes at a crash scene, helped some pretty troubled people, dug up bodies overseas, watched autopsies of kids and a lot of other stuff that I am pretty proud of. I am aware of at least four people who would not be here today if it werent for me so I reckon the good out weighs the bad. I missed much of my sons early life, broke both knees fighting fools and will need a new new by 50.

Cops were once a big family, there were good families and bad families just like in real life and were in some ways like this forum. The good, the bad and the ugly.

Sadly today the family has been broken up and its just individuals out there looking after themselves. So we have a more just system but one that will result in bitter and in many cases mentally ill ex cops.

There is however very little verballing etc going on now due to the taped and videoed records of interview and the weight is heavily in the defendants side as it should be.

So I support what you say to a degree. Policing, done by the right people with the right attitude, is very enjoyable and I would support anyone thinking of joining but get some life experience first. Done by the wrong people it just sucks.

Dont forget you are talking 37 years ago. Probably some steel beams, timber and bolts needed by now. :p

cheers

dazzler

maybe Im gonnna get flammed.

[Wood Borer]

I had long hair too:oo:

It is difficult when a decision is made in a split second by an individual under tough conditions and then it is drawn out over weeks by armchair experts asking questions about other options etc. in a court or an inquiry. How would these smarties have reacted if put on the spot?

I feel sorry for the honest copper who acted to the best of their ability at the time under pressure when the outcome is not so good.

The sleazebag copper who is intentionally brutally violent but pretends it is self defence, they are letting their mates down in the same way someone falsely reporting rape lets down the real rape victims.

I have met good and bad coppers just like in any other profession or trade apart from politicians (they are over represented by dodgy slimeballs).

[dazzler]

It must be really frustrating dealing with some of the low lifes with have in our community. I would certainly be tempted (if I was a copper) to take the law into my hands and fix up the problem before it got to court.

However, I do wonder why do they have to shoot people in the chest. In the RAF (U.K.) we were taught unless the dangerous person had a gun/rifle, to shoot them in legs/knee caps. Not only does it get them on the ground but they are in so much pain they lose their grip on the offensive weapon:wink:. At least the loved one's will still be able to see them as well as give them a helping hand.

Hi Metal

The only reason to discharge a firearm is effectively to prevent loss of life and that needs to be immediate and imminent. cops are taught to shoot for centre mass of the body. Police use hollow point style projectiles that are designed to stop in the body when they contact lots of soft body tissue. Arms and legs are not like that and the chance of the projectile hitting someone else is a real possibility.

The average shooting takes place over four seconds and seven feet between them. Most shots are instinctive and not aimed so its normally a case of whip it out and fire.

Police snipers aim for the brain stem to stop the threat immediately so there mates can go in and secure the place.

cheers

dazzler

[journeyman Mick]

Dazzler,
that's possibly the most frank and honest post I've ever read. I commend you, not so much for admitting your wrongdoings as a cop, but just for admitting that you've done wrong, period.

Mick

[stevebaby]

Why ? They aren't the ones saying he Police have nothing to fear. You are.
They are the ones who are saying it...they can explain it, if you can't understand it.
Read the Police (Immunity from Civil Liability) Act yet?

[Clinton1]

There are good and bad people in all organisations, the cops, the army, the post office and the local Coles all suffer from this.


Trouble is that in some jobs more harm is caused by the ratbags than in others.

My :2tsup: go out to the good, decent or just ordinary police.

I too remember the bad old days in QLD :tdown3:

Dazzler - good post... particularly about being young and joining a corrupt group... happens eveywhere, unfortunately.... and is only fixed by strong leaders, and when its often fools at the top....

I have no dramas with a copper shooting at someones bodymass.
I reckon if the cop has to shoot in the first place.... better the out of control aggressor than the cop. Aiming for the legs gets police killed, and the idea of a 'noble' death is hard to sell to a grieving wife and kids.

Yep, I'd only be a copper for the big paycheck! :p

[Bleedin Thumb]

Let's all hope the bad old days are gone.

For sure, the cops didn't get too many plaudits in the '70's if you were a hippy (like me).

However, that was then.....


True enough but..... I had so many bad experiences with the them that it has shaped my psyche.
And I must point out I'm not a criminal... Ive never been convicted of anything I was just harassed and intimidated by them.

I was living in a share house at one stage in the valley in Brisbane where we were raided once a week. I kid you not! Once a week for about 3 months or more and all they got was some crumbs of dope on some poor bastard that was visiting us.

.......... best not get me started my whole youth seemed to be permeated by cops intimidating and threatening me when I wasn't doing anything wrong.

And not much has changed, ... they're are still picking on teenagers from what I see in the local rag.
But thats alright by me as I don't like teenagers either.:D

EDIT I missed your post Dazzler as I was busy slooowly typing.. good post and I'm smart enough to realise all these things ... just find it hard to shake off the animosity towards the profession...except when I need one. I had to say that before some one else did!

[silentC]

Never really had much trouble with the cops. I had a Highway Patrol guy who singled me out when I was 19. Used to pull me over every time he saw me, just for the hell of it. Fined me for not parking close and parallel because I pulled up on the opposite side of the road; fined me for not wearing a seatbelt because I was pulling it on as I drove away from a parking space; fined me for dangerous driving because one of the rear wheels spun a bit as I turned a corner on a dirt road. You know, that kind of thing. But I hated him, not cops in general.

I've got a mate who is a sarge in Sydney and it blows me away how cheerful he always is despite what he has to deal with daily.

[craigb]

I had long hair too:oo:




We're just going to have to take your word for that Rob. :D

[dadpad]

My missus had a meeting with Christine Nixon (Vic commisioner) earlier this week. Said "what a loverly lady..... but not a person to be mucked around. Definitly SWMBO.

According to my missus Paul Mullet should reconsider his choice of careers

[Groggy]

Bleedin is correct about Brisbane police in the '70s, I agree with his description completely as it matched my experiences there. As a youngster I pulled out from a stop sign and turned right. I was immediately pulled over and ticketed for speeding. When I argued that wasn't possible in 100 yards I was dragged from the car and threatened - so had to cop it sweet. That happened to most guys in their 20s at that time.

You don't forget those things. Since then I have worked with SOG teams and country police quite a bit (VIC, SA, WA and NSW) and have had nothing but good experiences.

[silentC]

We're just going to have to take your word for that Rob. :D
I had long hair too. I've got a photo somewhere to prove it!

[Bleedin Thumb]

OK Silent, WB and all you ex hippies if you cant find a photo you weren't there or you were always square.

Me at 17.....30 years ago...the years have not been kind.:B :no:

40712

[craigb]

OK Silent, WB and all you ex hippies if you cant find a photo you weren't there or you were always square.



Me 1975.

[silentC]

How do you guys get your hands on these pics so quick? OK, I'll have to go up to the house and find one...

[silentC]

16

[craigb]

Such a flattering photo Darren. :D

[Lignum]

17 :cool:

[silentC]

It was my Mick Jagger impersonation :wink:

[Bleedin Thumb]

Lig I asked for photos from your hippy stage not your cross-dressing stage.

Hope it was just a stage?

[silentC]

Hope it was just a stage?
So do I, because man, you make an ugly chick!

[Shannon]

There is good and bad everywahere. I want to trust and for the most part I do, I guess the media has the most control over what we hear about them, and like everything we are fed, sensationalism and shock win the day more than the day in day out of these people doing their jobs and protecting the general public.
Saw this shirt and think it is quite poiniant for 99% of the time. At the end of the day who do you turn to???

[RobP]

I used to be a great fan of The Police.
Then Sting went solo.

[Lignum]

So do I, because man, you make an ugly chick!


Well we all cant be as effeminate looking as you :wink:

[silentC]

I would have made an ugly chick too!

Not my fault I had such boyish good looks :p

[Lignum]

I would have made an ugly chick too!

Not my fault I had such boyish good looks :p


Was the uncanny resemblance between you and Danny Bonaduce the reason you took up drums :?

[Bob38S]

Not into the love/hate fest thing when it comes to cops, teachers, real estate sellers, lawyers, doctors etc.

There is [as has been said] good, mediocre, bad in all professions or services.

I treat all [police] as I find them - most deserve my respect for what they do and how they do it, however, that being said, those who do the wrong thing [for this read criminally wrong] deserve everyone's condemnation.

Please,
once again [the old story] - prosecute/punish those that do the wrong thing - do not punish all. This idea [not unique] is applicable to all situations not just the current one.
The government/schools/businesses are all guilty of this where all are made to suffer for the few.

Bear in mind that the people on the ground can only do what the "high ups" allow/require them to do. I also was in Brisbane in the 60/70's - many of those I came into contact with did not agree with the government's "requirements" re street marches/Springboks tours etc.

Re the shooting aspects - the shooting to wound will get you or someone else killed - this idea, unfortunately, is usually put forth by those who have not shot firearms before and/or believe that what they see from Hollywood is reality instead of supposed entertainment.

One last point, many feel that someone armed with a knife is a low level threat - wrong - an offender with a knife will have it in the Officer's chest if the offender is closer than 7-10 feet - before most Officers can draw and fire. Hopefully a sobering thought before people/media start their usual bleating.

I believe the SWAT group in the US have this as their logo

1*

Translated as, "only 1 ass to risk"

BTW - No, I'm not a cop nor ever have been - it's a job that I don't think I could do - I'm just pleased that there are some who can.

Regards,
Bob

[silentC]

Was the uncanny resemblance between you and Danny Bonaduce the reason you took up drums :?
Better to model myself on him than on Susan Dey :D

[Bleedin Thumb]

Silent I've been trying to work out who you (as a 16 year old) reminded me of.

Danny from the Partridge Family.:laughing1: I bet that was character building.:D

[silentC]

Oddly enough, I never copped that at all. But then the Partridge Family was pretty much a shot duck by the time I was 16 and when it was on TV, no-one had colour TV.

So yeah, in as much as I had red hair, I looked just like him. Surprised I didn't get mobbed everywhere I went :p

[meansy_wood]

im stirlos buddy that wants to join the force aswell. how do u get into asio???

[ss_11000]

im stirlos buddy that wants to join the force aswell. how do u get into asio???
since when do you call me stirlo??:p

[silentC]

OK you two, go and sort this out down behind the gym shed. And we want pictures.

[Bleedin Thumb]

. how do u get into asio???


Sssshhhhh...its a secret.....

[ss_11000]

Sssshhhhh...its a secret.....
but you can tell us:D :q

[silentC]

Yeah we could tell you, but then we'd have to kill you...

[Bleedin Thumb]

but then I would have to shoot you, claim you were coming at me with a pruning saw.

[Bleedin Thumb]

:D Snap

[Rocker]

I feel so lonely amongst all these superannuated hippies. Isn't there anyone who was a dweeb like me?

Rocker

[ss_11000]

Yeah we could tell you, but then we'd have to kill you...
at least i would die with knowledge:rolleyes: :p

[Bleedin Thumb]

Rocker, was that really you? (not that I know what you look like now)

Mate that is way too serious.

What did you do for kicks? Entomology?

Hey baby, do you want to come up and look at my collection of Lepidoptera?:D

[Rocker]

Bleeding,

It was me; I had a sadly misspent youth:) My first gf was a Tanzanian bar-girl.

Rocker

[Bleedin Thumb]

Bleeding,

It was me; I had a sadly misspent youth:) My first gf was a Tanzanian bar-girl.

Rocker


Sounds well spent to me.. I can see where you are coming from.

Dress up as an innocent dweeb and pick up all the girls that want to corrupt you. Good plan.:D

[Lignum]

Sounds well spent to me.. I can see where you are coming from.

Dress up as an innocent dweeb and pick up all the girls that want to corrupt you. Good plan.:D

Or like me, spend my time dressing up like a Tanzanian bar-girl :rolleyes:

[Bleedin Thumb]

Jeez- Rocker is going to be devastated when he reads that Lig.

Hey whats that background music...sounds like the theme from The Crying Game....

[AlexS]

im stirlos buddy that wants to join the force aswell. how do u get into asio???

Don't call us, we'll call you.

[DavidG]

1st rule of entering ASIO is that no one should know.
So do not publicise that you are interested.
Consult your careers adviser.

Do not tell anyone when you apply or if you get a job.
Any one asks, you work for McDonald's.

You need top grades and a Uni degree that then allows you to spend the rest of your life sitting round in clapped out cars or dingy rooms spying on people who could not give a s..t anyway.

[swiftden]

Stirlo you apply for it just like every other job. Good grades, past experience etc all go towards your application and YES like it was said you dont advertise the fact.

Its just like we have undercover cops here we call dogs. they get there names blacked out etc and disappear for 2 years. most can only stay in for about 3 years before they have to transfer to avoid corruption issues.

Like everyone has said there are good and bad in all professions. I like to see my self as one of the good guys. I treat even the crooks with respect. You treat every one like a ???? head and they never forget and every other copper to deal with them gets the raw deal. Most know they are crooks and we are cops and that we are just doing our job. Its when you treat them like scum that you have trouble.

I have seen some dodgy stuff in my 4 small years as a cop and yes its not right. I have gone up the chain about a couple of things i have seen as they should never have occured.

Dont tar all of us with the same brush or group us all together. just cos one gave ya a hard time doesnt mean the rest of us will.

You need a thick skin in the line of work, and you need to not let too much bother you.

My favourite saying is " like water off a ducks back" in other words tommorrow is another day.

[Rocker]

Lignum,

I don't think you were ever as pert as this:)

Rocker

[Bleedin Thumb]

Clever use of makeup probably.

[ss_11000]

1st rule of entering ASIO is that no one should know.
So do not publicise that you are interested.
Consult your careers adviser.

Do not tell anyone when you apply or if you get a job.
Any one asks, you work for McDonald's.

You need top grades and a Uni degree that then allows you to spend the rest of your life sitting round in clapped out cars or dingy rooms spying on people who could not give a s..t anyway.


Stirlo you apply for it just like every other job. Good grades, past experience etc all go towards your application and YES like it was said you dont advertise the fact.

Its just like we have undercover cops here we call dogs. they get there names blacked out etc and disappear for 2 years. most can only stay in for about 3 years before they have to transfer to avoid corruption issues.

Like everyone has said there are good and bad in all professions. I like to see my self as one of the good guys. I treat even the crooks with respect. You treat every one like a ???? head and they never forget and every other copper to deal with them gets the raw deal. Most know they are crooks and we are cops and that we are just doing our job. Its when you treat them like scum that you have trouble.

I have seen some dodgy stuff in my 4 small years as a cop and yes its not right. I have gone up the chain about a couple of things i have seen as they should never have occured.

Dont tar all of us with the same brush or group us all together. just cos one gave ya a hard time doesnt mean the rest of us will.

You need a thick skin in the line of work, and you need to not let too much bother you.

My favourite saying is " like water off a ducks back" in other words tommorrow is another day.


Don't call us, we'll call you.

thanx guys:2tsup:

[Aberdeen]

Who'd wanna be a cop anyway......
Underpaid, overworked, put up with who knows what, never appreciated, work all hours and have to make snap decisions......
I'd prefer the safety of my shed and building boats.

Aberdeen

[craigb]

That post will either get deleted or get us all sent to the naughty room. Which would be a shame.

[DavidG]

Just needs a bit of paintshop work on the fender. :o

[boban]

If that really is you Rocker, then you are a dead ringer for Kevin Bacon (the actor).

Interesting thread this.

As to liabilty of the officers, they are generally immune unless they go over the top. They are not immune from criminal acts. Transferring assets is the smart thing to do for all people who expose themselves to potential liability.

As to some of the accusations I've heard about police, and some of the cross-examinations I've conducted. Well, they leave you in no doubt that there are some rotten apples out there.

As a group though, I've found them to be as varied as the folk on this forum.

[Bob38S]

Thanks Boban, I concur heartily.

Swiftden, my point exactly,

"Dont tar all of us with the same brush or group us all together. just cos one gave ya a hard time doesnt mean the rest of us will."

Sorry about the seriousness of my original post - I just felt it needed to be said.
I really have a problem with [what I consider] unfairness, I try to see things from the other side [apart from my own feelings] and would like to be considered the same.

Regards,
Bob

[Aberdeen]

Ooooops, I think I was a naughty boy..... uploaded the unedited one.... trying again but don't know how to delete the old one..... will try....
Hope the cops don't catch up with me

Aberdeen

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3981/copcarwithattitudeia7.jpg



Just needs a bit of paintshop work on the fender. :o

[Aberdeen]

David,
I think I worked it out.... we should all be able to sleep soundly tonight...

:B


Just needs a bit of paintshop work on the fender. :o

[bob w]

Don't know about Qld in the 70's but Sydney in the 60's & 70's was certainly no picnic. If the coppers saw you out after about 10.00pm you got a size 10 boot in the rear end and told to go home. And guess what you did? You went straight home. We all had long hair and it was "cool" until some sargeant got hold of it and led you wherever he felt like. However having said all that we survived the experience without any lasting effects and I guess any low lives they came into contact with got the same treatment. As far as shooting anyone is concerned I have not been in the police but I did have a short stint as an armed security guard and during weapons training we were told to aim for centre mass as when an armed baddie is coming for you, you will neither have the time nor the nerve to take careful aim and shoot them in the arm or leg. We were also told that if the offender is drug affected they are extremely hard to stop so were taught to "stitch shoot" which is rapid fire starting at about the groin or lower stomach area and working your way up towards the chest area. Having been taught all this we were then told that whatever we did "keep your weapon in your holster" unless your own or someone elses death was imminent. Thankfully I was able to comply with that last piece of advice. As I said it was a very short stint as the thought of being armed in a public street with other people and knowing that you may have to make a decision that could endanger their safety was not what I was cut out to do. So I say thank heavens there are police out there that can and do live with that risk and do it very well. They keep you and I and all of our loved ones safe at the risk of their own mental well being.
Cheers Bob W

[Groggy]

Thanks for removing that (it was noticed at the time it was posted btw). Self moderation is a much better way to go :2tsup: .

[ozwinner]

Self moderation is a much better way to go :2tsup: .


But it makes you go blind..:o

Al :q

[Bleedin Thumb]

Hey Al, were is your photo. You must have something at least with big collars and sideburns.

[ozwinner]

Ill have to dig one out.

Al :2tsup:

[ozwinner]

1975, our wedding day, it was very informal, just like me..
PS. Im the one with short hair. :p

Al :2tsup:

[Metal Head]

Al,

That saying on your T-shirt doesn't read what I think is says does it - happiness is a t---t pussy:o.

[fred.n]

I thought Al didn't like cats??:oo: :p

[ozwinner]

Al,

That saying on your T-shirt doesn't read what I think is says does it - happiness is a t---t pussy:o.

Fraid so, it was the 70's after all man.. :2tsup:

Al :-

[Bleedin Thumb]

Classic!:D

OK who's next? go on be brave.........

[ozwinner]

It was my best T shirt. :doh:

Al :-

[Wood Borer]

We're just going to have to take your word for that Rob. :D

I got it cut for the wedding Craig. This is pre workshop, pre good tools but they were good days all the same.