seal slaughter

[la Huerta]

i'm really upset about this mass killing, how could people in the day and age do such a thing, :(


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[E. maculata]

Utterly incomprehensible to me:(

[johnc]

One of the local pro fishermen called them D@#k heads on TV which pretty well sums them up. It is annoying when trying to land a fish when an opportunistic seal plucks it off the hook but its his territory not ours. This act of lunacy I think was in a marine park and just puts out the wrong message. Bit of a pity they were is a professional boat, it would be easier to swallow if it was an amatuer.

[la Huerta]

anyone heard of what punishment the 2 are there getting....

or should i take care of the matter myself.

[rowie]

because they steal the crays? the scumbags deserve to be shot! build a better craypot or pess off!

[garymalm]

how could people in the day and age do such a thing
With one or two high powered rifles.

[Doughboy]

I heard that these effing penis nosed dimwits are going to get the book thrown at them and will recieve the harshest penalty allowable.. I thought GREAT.. then I nearly fell off my chair when they said ten thousand dollar fine and one year in gaol...:eek: :eek:


What the &$%^%& is that she-ite??? I am gob smacked that this is what they call punishment.:eek: :eek:

Pete

[Rossluck]

anyone heard of what punishment the 2 are there getting....

or should i take care of the matter myself.

You might have to take matters into your own hands. They were released after questioning. It sounds like the police didn't have enough evidence.

On second thoughts, don't take matters into your own hands.:)

[Bluegum]

Yep after seeing the report last night on tele, where one bloke claimed the seal population was getting out of control and taking thier fish. I liked that part as I thought the fish were not owned until caught and then legally sold. Perhaps its the fishing industry that needs to take a look at itself and what it does. I am not trying to start a debate of pro fishing, but when you continuosly net in the same are its natural that stocks will deplete.

[Iain]

To call these fishermen professionals is something of a worry, Fisheries Officers used to carry sidearms in order to protect themselves from the feuding fishers, dedicated to blasting each other out of the water to gain a bit more space in the water.
A lot of the crew are nothing short of neanderthal, just like some other 'professions' who work the land, drive trucks, cut down trees, unload ships etc.
There always has and always will be a bad element, remember the soldiers who mutilated the kitten for fun?
I tend to think of the professionals as the ones who own the company, not operate the machinery...................in this instance.

[Doughboy]

I am sorry but I am still trying to comprehend the mindless inhumanity of some people ......

Sadest thing I have heard for quite a while

Pete

[la Huerta]

the justice system in the country is all screwed up, i'm sorry to say but the police are more interested in raising revenue by booking people for the smallest traffic offences that really arn't a big deal and will never hurt anyone, yet those who do evil get off with a slap on the hand....

my aunty got the living daylights beat out of her by her husband yet nothing is been done, cops did'nt care at all, nor do they car about seals, yet someone forgets to indicate or stop at a stop sign even though there is no traffic and a cop comes wizzing along and treats the offender like he just did some horrible crime and books him, if say for instance he has money problems and can't pay the fine on time he will get his lincence suspended, and if it goes further, loose it and go to jail...

you see my point...something just ain't right here...

[DanP]

Careful, your chip is showing.

[Sir Stinkalot]

I don't think that it is the police that are to blame ..... the problem is what do they have to charge them on?

The same for the cyclist who ran the red light at a pedestrian crossing killing an old man who could only be charged with running the red light.

It needs the government to enact harsher penalties for cruelty to animals $100k+ / 15 years and jail and then get the courts to sentence on the higher end of these penalties.

Who in their right mind would vote against harsher penalties to cruelty to animals?

[Bodgy]

Who in their right mind would vote against harsher penalties to cruelty to animals?

Ah Stinky, there's a can of worms being opened.

How does one define cruelty?

All these animal rights loonies would include battery chickens, vivisection, medical research etc etc.

The animals shooting the Seals is a cut and dried case, but the devil would reside in the detail once one starts changing laws.

Don't like battery chickens and medical testing much, but its a question of greater good.

Personally I'd like to see convicted terrorists and pedophiles used instead.

[Ashore]

All these animal rights loonies would include battery chickens, vivisection, medical research etc etc.


The seal slaughter was wrong they were a protected animal and those who did that should be dealt with to the full extent of the law :mad:
I remember some years back seeing footage of Japennese fishermen in the Inland sea of japan herding dolphins to together and clubbing them to death because they were taking fish. I would hope that Australians never stoop to Japeneese fishing principals.

However we need to be carefull what we legislate , give some people their head and it would be against the law to continue with the rabbit reduction policies, culling roo's, emu's, feral cats and dogs etc

[Harry72]

I reckon they should be charged for premeditated murder because thats what they have done.

[Bob Willson]

I reckon they should be charged for premeditated murder because thats what they have done. So the next time you step on an ant, set a trap for a mouse or rat, catch and kill a fish or whatever, you want the police to charge you with premeditated murder? Or maybe as an accomplice after the fact whenever you eat a steak?

I agree that what they did was a ba$tard act and they really do deserve to have their karma severely afflicted with something, but what they did was not and will not be seen as cruelty by any court anywhere in Australia. They killed the seals quickly without inflicting any undue pain or suffering (that I am aware of). Having said that, the only way the spirits of these seals would get any rest or real justice would be for la Huerta to take care of the matter himself.

[Sir Stinkalot]

I agree that what they did was a ba$tard act and they really do deserve to have their karma severely afflicted with something, but what they did was not and will not be seen as cruelty by any court anywhere in Australia.

Perhaps it may not have been cruelty as the animals didn't suffer a prolonged or painful death (but who really knows unless you were there?) but who gave them the power to take pot shots at a protected animal? It should be seen as a some fools having their interpretation of fun, as their actions would have no effect on any impact on the fishing industry.

The killing of animals is a part of life and as long as it is done humanely then that is ok ..... I wouldn't put shooting seals for the sake of it a necessity, it is basically like duck shooting, one fool with a big gun trying to kill something that doesn't have a chance and hasn't done anything wrong.

If they wanted to play with their big guns then they should shoot at targets or each other ...... but if the police have confiscated their guns then perhaps they shouldn't be shooting at all.

[Iain]

basically like duck shooting, one fool with a big gun trying to kill something that doesn't have a chance and hasn't done anything wrong.
Don't agree with that sentiment, what is the diffence between a duck meeting a sudden death as the result of a bullet wound as opposed to an electrocuted chook on a production line for your enjoyment, via a chain, suspended by the feet (or whatever you choose to call them) and dipped in boiling water even though the shock may not have worked.
I think I would rather be an unsuspecting duck rather than a production line chook, but of course this is never portrayed to the chook eating public.
Don't you just love the signage outside the take away chook outlets, a happy flag waving rooster encorouging you to come in and sample some chicken delights, a bit like an ad for a smiling mass murderer to attend his hanging.

[ozwinner]

Its not that long ago it was ok to go shooting wild animals, I used to love going shooting, still would if the gun laws werent as harsh.

Never shot a seal, but if given the chance and it wasnt going to make front page news, I prolly would.
I shot plenty of roos, rabbits, foxes, wild dogs, wild cats though in years gone by.

Al :)

[Bodgy]

Al

I'm with you on the cats and wild dogs, but when I was a kid I went with some country bumpkins and blew away too many kangaroos. At the time they weren't in plague proportions.

I still feel bad about it.

It has seriously dented my Karma.

I can think of a few people I would happily blow away, with no remorse, but slaughtering animals - if its not for food, or to preserve one's environment - is not condusive to moving upwards on the wheel of life.

[Waldo]

G'day,

Made me real angry to see what they did, the should be locked up and the key thrown away. :mad:

Seals taking the fish isn't a reason, it's the fishermen that take the fish from the seals.

By all means shoot feral animals of any kind (I'd shoot the mynah birds in my backyard except I'd be in trouble from Mr. Fuzz), but anything else I can't justify. My FIL justifys shooting roos because they eat the grass meant for his cows, I argue his cows are taking the grass form the roos - boy do we have some debates over it. :p

[Sir Stinkalot]

Don't agree with that sentiment, what is the diffence between a duck meeting a sudden death as the result of a bullet wound as opposed to an electrocuted chook on a production line for your enjoyment, via a chain, suspended by the feet (or whatever you choose to call them) and dipped in boiling water even though the shock may not have worked.

The reference to the duck shooting wasn't about the level of cruelty but more so the unnecessary way that some people have to justify their existence by blasting away an animal which hasn't got a chance just to try and reassure them that they are on the top of the food chain.

If this is to be classified as a sport then surely there is modern technology available that would allow them to shoot at a target that is flying through the air and it doesn't have to be a living creature.

I don't feel comfortable with the cook example, nor the live export of sheep, or the transport of animals in trucks that fall over and get their legs stuck under the rails (as I saw yesterday) ......

[Iain]

The Clay Pigeon Preservation Society, poor innocent things, get slung out of a machine and blasted to pieces, Skeets are a bit more cunning..................
I fly fish and catch and release most fish, keep the odd one but hate watching people catch and keep buckets of fish for the sake of doing so.
What I was trying to point out was the blatant hypocrisy associated with a lot of shooting, culling etc while the same hypocrites go home and eat a steak, logging protesters who attend rallies to protect the environment and drive smoky old VW Kombi's, the list goes on.

[la Huerta]

suddenly i'm feeling a little off....


bloody humans....got to kill everything, one day there will be nothing left...

cows and choocs are a way of life, a major food source and theres not much we can do about it,hey i like steak too...but killing of an animal for fun or greed or just because thay can, is what get's me angry, like the Japanese whalers, or every time i go onto ebay there is a little add in the top right of the screen saying about the dogs that get drained for there bile...

[Bodgy]

suddenly i'm feeling a little off....


bloody humans....got to kill everything, one day there will be nothing left...



Nah, that won't happen. Its the humans that will become extinct. The planet will fight back. Couple of opening salvo's in AIDS, then Bird Flu. Maybe the current climate change is the beginning.

Nature will out.

Go Gaia!