petrol again

[Guy]

thought you might like to veiw some cartoons on petrol prices http://cagle.com/news/GasGoingUp/

[Daddles]

Oh, it's jokes. I thought you were bragging that you can afford to buy another tank of petrol :rolleyes: :D

Richard

[Guy]

Ive a 100litre tank havent filled up for a long time now, usually $20 every now and then

[attie]

"Ive a 100litre tank havent filled up for a long time now, usually $20 every now and then"

Wholy smokes mate, what have you got? A "Vespa" scooter ;)

I've just been to town [Monday] and diesel is $137.9 on the highway and $129.5 in town. Gee! I wonder why the highway is so much dearer:confused:

Cool link Guy<!-- / message -->

[Iain]

"Gee! I wonder why the highway is so much dearer:confused:

Because they have a good firm grip on your short and curlies knowing that you probably haven't got enough fuel to get to the next town.

[Bob38S]

"....
I've just been to town [Monday] and diesel is $137.9 on the highway and $129.5 in town. Gee! I wonder why the highway is so much dearer:confused:

<!-- / message --> Cool link Guy

Geez!
Where do you live - we in Maryborough are only paying $1.35.9 per Litre. I think your decimal point has slipped.
Just to break your heart and mine again for mentioning it - have a mate who does charter work mostly in the Carribean during the European winter - only pays $0.13 /L delivered to the boat when he is down Venezuela way.:(:(:(
Regards,
Bob

[echnidna]

Its $1.49 in Warrnambool at the moment

[mudgutts]

Diesel is $1.52.9 ULP $1.49.9 LPG $0.75 today in the bay and biodiesel is $0.32 p/l

[Auld Bassoon]

Ow!

Methinks I'll have to tie a bungee cord to my right foot to stop it nailing that wee pedal on the right :eek: ;)

[attie]

[[ Just to break your heart and mine again for mentioning it - have a mate who does charter work mostly in the Carribean during the European winter - only pays $0.13 /L delivered to the boat when he is down Venezuela way.:(:(:( ]]

I can vouch for that Bob, I to have a friend living over there and he's allways stating how cheap fuel is. Their cost of living in total is way below ours but the country is not a great place to live in, a lot of corruption and violance.

[fred.n]

[[ Just to break your heart and mine again for mentioning it - have a mate who does charter work mostly in the Carribean during the European winter - only pays $0.13 /L delivered to the boat when he is down Venezuela way.:(:(:( ]]

I can vouch for that Bob, I to have a friend living over there and he's allways stating how cheap fuel is. Their cost of living in total is way below ours but the country is not a great place to live in, a lot of corruption and violance.

Attie. you should forward that to Koshie and see if it might stir the pot a little:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :eek: :eek: Some how I don't think so:eek: but you never know:confused: :confused:

[Shedhand]

Filled my tank this morning. $85 bucks (70 litre tank - Mitsubishi Challenger 4x4). When I bought the car last year it cost me $72. That's an increase of about a buck a day. Big deal. I now drink 2 cups of coffee a day instead of 1. That's an extra 3.25 a day. Now that's a big deal. We need to put things in perspective. Its no good comparing our prices with 3rd world countries or big oil producing countries. Europeans have been paying 2 and 3 bucks a litre for years. :cool:

[rrich]

You had me going there for a bit. Even at $1.40 it seemed like a bargan. I thought that there had to be something that I was missing... :p

Then I realized, It's PER LITER DUMMY!

Today I filled up at $3.239/Gallon or $0.855/Liter diesel. :mad:

Of that price there's about $0.65 in taxes per gallon or $0.17 per liter. I guess that our taxes work out to about 20% of the price of fuel. What are your taxes on fuel?

[Shedhand]

You had me going there for a bit. Even at $1.40 it seemed like a bargan. I thought that there had to be something that I was missing... :p

Then I realized, It's PER LITER DUMMY!

Today I filled up at $3.239/Gallon or $0.855/Liter diesel. :mad:

Of that price there's about $0.65 in taxes per gallon or $0.17 per liter. I guess that our taxes work out to about 20% of the price of fuel. What are your taxes on fuel?

The oil companies say they get less wholesale than the government gets in taxes per litre. The petrol stations say their margin isabout 3 -4 cents a litre depending where they are located. I think its more like 9 - 13 cents per litre plus the gouging bonus (selling old fuel at the new wholesale price plus margin). I'm told by a friend in the industry that (in this country at least) as the petrol is being transferred from tanker to ground tanks the payment is being made to the supplier's bank account by the retailer. If the oil price (WTI) and therefore the wholesale price goes up a week later (we have rack pricing in this country) the service stations increase the price irrespective of whether stock is old or new. Equals windfall profit. They profit in reverse as well if the wholesale price goes down the higher prices remain for a week or so. Its all bloody crooked and the big oil companies own the governments because global defence systems rely so heavily on timely supply they...the governments won't risk their cosy relationships.

Off the box..:o

[black1]

You had me going there for a bit. Even at $1.40 it seemed like a bargan. I thought that there had to be something that I was missing... :p

Then I realized, It's PER LITER DUMMY!

Today I filled up at $3.239/Gallon or $0.855/Liter diesel. :mad:

Of that price there's about $0.65 in taxes per gallon or $0.17 per liter. I guess that our taxes work out to about 20% of the price of fuel. What are your taxes on fuel?

probely about 90% with this gumbyment:D
liter is really litre:D :cool:

[attie]

[[What are your taxes on fuel?]]
I think it is 32% Rich, not sure, then we've got the GST as well.
I put $50 in the tank last night and the GST was $4.55, don't know how that works, I thought it was 10%<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

[Cliff Rogers]

....I put $50 in the tank last night and the GST was $4.55, don't know how that works, I thought it was 10%<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

That's correct, 10% is already included in the final price.
10% plus 100% is 110% so to find out the starting price before GST simply divided the final amount buy 1.1
(of for you old money fraction types...divide by 11/10ths to find 10/11ths)
Is every body still with me on this? :rolleyes:

IE: & EG: $50 divided buy 1.1 is $45.45 to the nearest cent.

So you really only bought $45.45 worth of petrol & you paid 10% GST ($4.55 to the nearest cent) Now add $45.45 & $4.55, it's not rocket science.

Now we do it v e r y v e r y s l o w l y for the old fractions types.

The final price is actually the original price plus 10% so it is 10/10ths plus 1/10th which is 11/10ths so.... to find out the original price, you divide buy 11/10ths & everybody SHOULD know that when you divide by a fraction, you simply invert the fraction & then multiply buy it so, you multiply by 10/11ths. ;) Trust me. It works.

OK OK for the v e r y v e r y v e r y v e r y s l o w people....
Either divide the final figure by 11 & then multiple by 10 or...
Multiple the final figure by 10 & then divide it by 11.
The result will be what you paid for it BEFORE they added 10% GST .:cool:

Is any body still with me?:confused:

[Shedhand]

That's correct, 10% is already included in the final price.
10% plus 100% is 110% so to find out the starting price before GST simply divided the final amount buy 1.1
(of for you old money fraction types...divide by 11/10ths to find 10/11ths)
Is every body still with me on this? :rolleyes:

IE: & EG: $50 divided buy 1.1 is $45.45 to the nearest cent.

So you really only bought $45.45 worth of petrol & you paid 10% GST ($4.55 to the nearest cent) Now add $45.45 & $4.55, it's not rocket science.

Now we do it v e r y v e r y s l o w l y for the old fractions types.

The final price is actually the original price plus 10% so it is 10/10ths plus 1/10th which is 11/10ths so.... to find out the original price, you divide buy 11/10ths & everybody SHOULD know that when you divide by a fraction, you simply invert the fraction & then multiply buy it so, you multiply by 10/11ths. ;) Trust me. It works.

OK OK for the v e r y v e r y v e r y v e r y s l o w people....
Either divide the final figure by 11 & then multiple by 10 or...
Multiple the final figure by 10 & then divide it by 11.
The result will be what you paid for it BEFORE they added 10% GST .:cool:

Is any body still with me?:confused:@/..\@

[Cliff Rogers]

Well oil beef hooked.... :confused:

I put @/..\@ into a google search 'cos I have no flam'n idea what it means & google is totally stuffed too... it didn't even say that it couldn't find anything. :D

[Daddles]

Cliff, you're supposed to petrol in your motor car's fuel tank, not sniff the stuff.

Richard

[Cliff Rogers]

It's too expensive to sniff. :cool:

Nah, just joking, be glad your car doesn't run on bottled water, coke or bloody wine. Even the cheapest plonk is still about $6 a litre. :D

[HJ0]

Try this lol :D ;) http://www.pm.gov.au/email.cfm

HJ0

[Bob38S]

A driver is stuck in a traffic jam on the motorway. Nothing is moving. Suddenly a man knocks on the window. The driver rolls down his window and asks, "What happened?" "Terrorists have kidnapped John Howard and are asking for a $10 million ransom. Otherwise they are going to douse him with petrol and set him on fire. We are going from car to car to take-up a collection."
The driver asks, "How much is everyone giving on average?"
"About a litre."

[Iain]

Even the cheapest plonk is still about $6 a litre. :D
Golden Gate Chateau Cardboard is currently selling for $7 for a four litre pack, I am not willing to try it at that price, would have to be a quality drop though;)
Disclaimer: I saw it at the supermarket thismorning while picking up some other 'essentials', namely in transparent glass vials containing 750ml of deep crimson nectar

What really urinates (:D) me off is GST on fuel, 10% on top of a tariffed(?) and exised item, double whammy for Johhny a tax on a tax on a tax.
I think the exise needs to be exorcised and a tax attacked.
Bloody beaurocrats, flopping their fat ar ses in huge tax funded limo's telling us how well off we are.

[Cliff Rogers]

Your $7 4L box is still more than fuel at present & it, the plonk that is, has a 29% wine equalisation tax on it & then a 10% GST as well. :eek:

[Iain]

Your $7 4L box is still more than fuel at present & it, the plonk that is, has a 29% wine equalisation tax on it & then a 10% GST as well. :eek:
And I'd put money on it that this is watered down a tad and we pay tax on the quantity not quality:rolleyes:

[attie]

http://static.flickr.com/45/140249195_e2cadc9629_m.jpg

This guy sent a pic of the bowser he filled up at in Caracas, Venezuela. BS - Bolivares is their currency. Note the price of the Premium on the left 0.70.0, that equates to 4 cents AUD a litre.
Here's a cash converter site http://www.xe.com/ucc/

[Buzzer]

What I find interesting, fuel users are complaining about the price of fuel. I believe, one sure fire way to save fuel is to slow down. In my travels on both rural and urban roads I have found, generally, this not to be the case, especially on urban roads........


Cheers:)
Buzzer.

[rrich]

liter is really litre:D :cool:


Interesting! Actually I looked it up in the "CRC Standard Mathematical Tables" book before I posted.

I guess that litre goes with colour, tyre and labour
while
liter goes with color, tire and labor.

We may be separated by a common language but we sure as heck share the same sense of humor!

[Cliff Rogers]

Nope, that is humour, not humor. :D

[Iain]

Isn't that what they keep cigars in?

[havenoideaatall]

Driving slower does not save fuel. Driving consistently at speeds of about 80-100k will.

[echnidna]

specially in a 60k zone

[havenoideaatall]

specially in a 60k zone

that's it! The speed limits spell curtains for fuel economy.

[Auld Bassoon]

In the interests of the nation, I therefore propose a blanket 320Km/Hr speed limit. :D

[Bob38S]

Just slightly back to the price gripe - I'm getting really sick of being told how lucky I am as the people in Europe are paying $2-$3 a litre. If they were to travel the distances we do, some/most would probably cross 3 countries - not only that but they have a much better public transport system - which outside of provincial Oz just doesn't exist.
Bob

[havenoideaatall]

Just slightly back to the price gripe - I'm getting really sick of being told how lucky I am as the people in Europe are paying $2-$3 a litre. If they were to travel the distances we do, some/most would probably cross 3 countries - not only that but they have a much better public transport system - which outside of provincial Oz just doesn't exist.
Bob

I've seen discussions where some people maintain the average surburban Aussie actually drives no further than your average European anyway.

I drive further here than I did in Europe, but at much more economical speeds and with no congestion.

I can understand the farmers and the rural people using this argument.

[Cliff Rogers]

...I can understand the farmers and the rural people using this argument.

My wife & I are in a rural area & we used an average of $850/month for the last quarter (Jan-Mar, before the latest price hike), that is almost $200 a week for 2 people.

How much a week are you spending?

[Bob38S]

I've seen discussions where some people maintain the average surburban Aussie actually drives no further than your average European anyway.



My sister in law has "rellies" in Denmark, we were there in '03 while they were here in '05 - distances and prices were frequently discussed/compared etc. I'd like to meet "the average surburban Aussie actually drives no further...." as I'm sure they would so we could compare notes. The general opinion here - there is that we are all being ripped off - and in the main - by the same companies.
Bob

[DanP]

I am constantly amazed at people complaining at the price of fuel but don't bat an eyelid at walking into the servo and paying $4 a litre for bottled water.

Dan

[havenoideaatall]

My wife & I are in a rural area & we used an average of $850/month for the last quarter (Jan-Mar, before the latest price hike), that is almost $200 a week for 2 people.

How much a week are you spending?

Mate that is serious money.

I was paying 89c for diesel in Jan 2004. I paid 1.40 odd the other day.

Now I train to work, I put in about 25 bucks a week - 100 a month.
(Used to be 75 a week / 300 a month before the price hike).
Missus probably spends 40-50 a week/160-200 a month.

$260 a month in total now, used to be $460-$500 before the hike. What I save in fuel, I spend on my Metlink pass so our monthly transport is still $460-500 odd.

[havenoideaatall]

My sister in law has "rellies" in Denmark, we were there in '03 while they were here in '05 - distances and prices were frequently discussed/compared etc. I'd like to meet "the average surburban Aussie actually drives no further...." as I'm sure they would so we could compare notes. The general opinion here - there is that we are all being ripped off - and in the main - by the same companies.
Bob

I think the average Aussie drives further (alot further), but I've seen people quoting motoring organisations who seem to think differently. I think we're all ripped off - in terms of the excise we pay, but interestingly enough, I don't think the European prices went up 40-50pc this last 2 years, so yes something is going on.

[Iain]

I am constantly amazed at people complaining at the price of fuel but don't bat an eyelid at walking into the servo and paying $4 a litre for bottled water.

Dan
In an attempt to negate that argument, I don't consume 6 bottles per 100km while driving, my cruiser does (24lt per 100km):o

[rrich]

Nope, that is humour, not humor. :D

Ouch!

[ozwinner]

My wife & I are in a rural area & we used an average of $850/month for the last quarter (Jan-Mar, before the latest price hike), that is almost $200 a week for 2 people.

How much a week are you spending?

I prolly spend about $150 per week on fuel.

Al :eek:

[ozwinner]

In an attempt to negate that argument, I don't consume 6 bottles per 100km while driving, my cruiser does (24lt per 100km):o

Gees Iain I thought my F250 was bad at 20 per 100.

Al :D

[Auld Bassoon]

In an attempt to negate that argument, I don't consume 6 bottles per 100km while driving, my cruiser does (24lt per 100km):o

Strewth Iain :eek: ! You do recall that the horse float can be disconnected?

[Cliff Rogers]

I prolly spend about $150 per week on fuel.

Al :eek:

Yeah but we are driving Corollas, Gina has only got about 2 points left so she has slowed up a bit, I still have heaps, do you know that a Corolla will do 180KPH? Try that in your F250 & see how much you use a week. :cool:

[Groggy]

I am constantly amazed at people complaining at the price of fuel but don't bat an eyelid at walking into the servo and paying $4 a litre for bottled water.What makes it particularly sad is that some recent laboratory tests showed the bottled water had more sediments and bacteria than tap water, in almost every instance (test conducted in Melbourne using Melbourne tap water).

[Skew ChiDAMN!!]

I dunno what you lot are whinging about...

I dropped into the local servo with an empty wine bottle and rag stopper, but the bloke behind the counter said he wouldn't sell me any petrol for love nor money. :rolleyes: He did sell me a lighter, though... :D

[Cliff Rogers]

What makes it particularly sad is that some recent laboratory tests showed the bottled water had more sediments and bacteria than tap water, in almost every instance (test conducted in Melbourne using Melbourne tap water).

This just proves that nothing can live on the Melb water & the sediment is so heavy it settles out before it comes out of the tap. :D

[Groggy]

This just proves that nothing can live on the Melb water & the sediment is so heavy it settles out before it comes out of the tap. :DTrust you to go at it backasswards Cluff!:p Don'tcha have a tree to extricate from your shed or something?

[ubeaut]

Our trip from Geelong to Brisbane cost exactly $247 in fuel using the highest octain fuel available. Vehicle: longwheel base Toyota highace. Load : approx 900kg Distance : 1741 km I thought this was pretty good.

Now here's the wierd part. Same trip last year cost $293 and the year before $276 according to our log books.

So how come the big difference. Partly due to cruise control and partly dueto GPS and new motor. GPS took us a different route that was way further than the direct route we always take and somehow cut almost 7 hours off the journey..... Go figure.

Wierd stuff eh ........ Neil :)