Own power.

[DavidG]

Now a question for the experts.
(for NSW) If you generate your own own 240v power do you need (legally) to use a sparkie to do the wiring or can I do my own?

ps :
before the experts start jumping up and down about the dangers, I was a TO. in electronics for 24 years inc 415 wiring and 6kv DC transmitter supplies.
240v is piddle power.
I would also sack a sparkie for what they get away with.

[Schtoo]

I don't know.

I have a sneaking suspicion that you might be able to do it yourself, as it's not connected to 'supply'. Don't quote me, but it does ring a bell...


If you would sack a sparky for what they get away wth (yes, I am one!) then for the love of gad DON'T COME HERE!!! Terrifying what they get away wth around these parts. Heck, I was surprised at what you can get away in NSW. Black as an active?

And to think, someone here lectured me about my throwing in a circuit for my welder by myself...

[normell]

Now a question for the experts.
(for NSW) If you generate your own own 240v power do you need (legally) to use a sparkie to do the wiring or can I do my own?

ps :
before the experts start jumping up and down about the dangers, I was a TO. in electronics for 24 years inc 415 wiring and 6kv DC transmitter supplies.
240v is piddle power.
I would also sack a sparkie for what they get away with.

Best to check with your insurance company first, 'cause if your joint burns down, and they find out you did your own wiring, they might refuse too pay up.

Normell

[Iain]

Black as an active?...
Sounds reasonable:rolleyes:
I met two Indians who bought out a business off someone I know, he was fixing TV's and appliances.
One was the engineer (his title) and the other was Managaing Director, between them they could barely figure out which end of a AA was positive.
He decided to help them out for a couple of weeks before moving on and was with the 'Engineer' fixing a microwave.
It does noit work, explained the engineer, and when switched on nothing happened, OK, so now we have to establish what is what inside the beast.
My friend explains that there are three wires, one active, one neutral and one earth.
Now which one is active, I do not know, says the engineer, well, the yellow/green is earth so which one is active, I do not know, well the blue is neutral so which is active, I do not know!!!!
And I belive he is still alive.
(Colours may be wrong as I cannot recall which are which, remembering the red/black/green)

[Ashore]

Heck, I was surprised at what you can get away in NSW. Black as an active?
...
I sailed on a tanker built in Japan and the earth coulor for the engine room service power was red :confused: :confused:

David I had a similar thought to normell about the insurance if its internal house / shed wiring . otherwise if your not connecting it up to the national grid and have seperate wiring then you should be ok
Are you talking about a weekender or similar here where there is no mains power connected, or just getting the power disconnected and going on your own

[fxst]

David a simple solution may be wire it up yourself to the fuse box and get a licenced lecy check it and then he hooks it up to the fuse box, gives you a certificate and then all including the insurance co are happy.:D
alternatively do the lot yourself and be done with:p
can you be licenced to do house wiring easily?

[Kev Y.]

I dont think you can be licensed to do house wiring "easily" usually it takes a 4 year apprenticeship.....

You can (or could) do a week long course at TAFE which would (used to) give you a "D" class license.. which allows(ed) you to change light fittings and power points NOT install new circuits for either lights or power.

Ergo the "D" class license is not worth the time/money/effort spent in study!

[ozwinner]

Im sure you can do the rough in, then get a sparkie to hook it up.
But Ive been known to be wrong in the past,

Al :)

[echnidna]

While Techs are trained to higher skill levels than electricians, electricians are trained to different safety standards and have more rule to comply with than techs.
e.g. how close can the back of a power point be located to foil insulation within walls etc etc.

Because of the insurance issues I would do as previously suggested and do your own wiring and have it connected to the fuse box by a lisenced electrician. Don't wire up like an electrician. Use heavier wiring and extra fuses in the system. Having 2 or 3 fused circuits in a workshop can be handy.

[DavidG]

For those interested. It is for a rural remote weekender.
No power, water, sewer, phone.
GSM does not work either :D CDMA does:(

Bob
I know of the rules. Used to consider the SAA rules a good reading book.
I wish the sparkies would follow it though.:(

If I decide to wire myself I will review the rules for updates since I last did anything.

[Iain]

For those interested. It is for a rural remote weekender.
No sewer.
Ensuite is bucket under the bed:D :D :D

[DavidG]

Ensuite is bucket under the bed What? So modern. It is actually a tree at the moment.:p

[Ashore]

Go for it , use plenty of "j" boxes and double screw bp's on the earth lines
double the cable size and sleep easy

About 15 years ago I rewired our present home , strictly to the letter of the law , on inspection day had a mate a lecco who showed up for the inspector ( who was a bloke I had gone to school with as it hapened ) after a full and througher inspection the inspector ( Chris ) says to me that I should have had an electrician do the job and not done it myself. I explained that the lecco had done the job and he says bull s-hite , too many "J" boxes and the cabling was tagged down every 10" , no lecco does that good a job. Still he passed it but warned me not to do it again.

[Iain]

Can almost ditto that, my cousin, ex airframe tech, wired my place.
Staright as a die, tied down flat every 6" no humps, twists, bloody perfect, too perfect.

[Schtoo]

If you seriously think that doing your own wiring, then calling a sparky to sign off on your work is seriously going to happen, forget it.

Read the regs, talk to a sparky (or just ask here) and do the job right. Don't ask some stranger to put their name on the line for something they didn't do. If you have a good mate, go for it. Someone you know well enough, ask and you might get lucky. Complete stranger? Might as well ask for his house, wife and kids. ;)

The job done right means the cable installed correctly, not tied down everywhere including where it shouldn't be. Not installing junction boxes for fun, but only when they are required. Using the right sized cable, and installing it in a safe manner.

Real sparkies do install stuff straight and narrow, no twists either. I myself have done miles of it. Annoying as heck at times, but the end result looks impressive (and garantees more work down the line).