Bummer week

[Iain]

Just had a bugger of a week, company I work for (worked for) just went belly up owing a few (K)$$$$$$$$, just on Xmas, just what I needed.
Little bastard phoned me a little while ago and said he needed some accounts settled and will I go and sort it out.
Told I will come round and tear his bloody ears off if he doesn't pay me my account for the past 2 months.
Some bastards just have no morals, he thinks nothing of going to Crown and dropping a couple of grand a night but I can go and get stuffed, right.
Just sitting down ow and put on 'Oh come ye sons of art' Purcell, I know, a lot don't like classical but I just happen to love it and live for it.

Rant over but I will get even with this little bastard somehow.

[Gumby]

Sorry to hear that mate. :( Hope it works out for the better somehow.

You're right about the timing. You know what they say though, as one door closes another opens.

Cheers,

[Driver]

Iain

Make sure you do find a way to get even - keep it legal - but get him! I can't stand these parasites who don't pay their bills. Had enough experience of the problem over the years and it gets me the same way every time. Bastards!

Have a glass of red and plot your revenge, mate!

Col

[AlexS]

Revenge is a dish best served when the sleazy little bastard least expects it. Go for it, but do as Col says and have a glass of red to go with your music (excellent taste, BTW) in the mean time.

[Iain]

I had a similar experience with a God bothering bastard several years ago, he didn't want to pay, it was only a few bucks and I really didn't care, but I filled out a mail order form for videos in his name and I have heard they pass on info and are relentless.
Plain brown wrappers for the next 5 years.
Viva the Roger.........
This little bastard is Chinese and said he couldn't care less what I wnat to do as he has done it before several times.
I am not going down the path of an assault charge though, think I am more intelligent than that, but revenge will be sweet, one day when he least expects it.
half p;issed and grammar suffering

[craigb]

Sorry to hear about it mate.

Like Alex says though, revenge is a dish that is best served cold.

There's bound to be a way you can get the little scrote.

He probably doesn't pay tax either. Perhaps a letter to the ATO would bear fruit?

[scooter]

That's a bitch, Iain, hope things sort out mate.


Regards...............Sean

[savage]

It's always the little bloke!.......:(

[bsrlee]

Its good to hear that you are not going to place burning bags of dog poo on his door step at 2am, then ring the door bell before running away.

Or super glue the wheel nuts on & the tyre valves in, specially after letting down one tyre just a bit. Or super glueing the windscreen wiper blades to the window.

Or mail him boxes of fish guts wrapped in plastic & glued to the inside of the box so he will cut the plastic when he tries to open the box.

Or any of the nasty psywar things like planting boxes in his garden & having someone ring him & describe where to find them & asking him where his nearest & dearest are (assumeing he has any other than himself).

Yes, very good to hear that you are not going to do any of these things.:rolleyes:

[RETIRED]

A drug bust at 3.00 in the morning is right out of the question then Iain.:rolleyes:

[Schtoo]

Fill his hose with alfalfa seeds, run hose in the window of his house.

2 part urethane foam, expands to 25 times it's original size. Weather seals on a cars windows aren't that good.

Shrimp in the hubcaps.

Milk into car doors.

Numerous subscriptions or letters of interest.

Anonymous calls to media/police/etc about the (insert really nasty thing here) living at his address.


And I haven't even got to the evil stuff yet...

I still need to serve someone their own dish of this, but it's only been 10 years yet. ;)


Plenty of really interesting things to do to a slimeball, just don't get caught!



(or just call 'the boys', worked last time for us...)

[Kev Y.]

It's always the little bloke!.......:(

Savage, you aint met Iain have you:confused: , He AIN'T little:eek:

Iain, I am sorry to here you are on the dole line, specially at this time of year. I hope things work out for you in the long run and the callous bast@rd does the right thing by you..

BTW let this be a lesson to you..... you should have stayed retired:o

[bitingmidge]

Iain,
Sorry.

I have been down that track many times, and used to shrug my shoulders and walk away.

On one occasion, a bloke whom I considered to be a friend (and partner) went troppo and knocked off $50k from our business, sending us to the very brink. On the advice of my beloved and my other partner, we didn't take further action (poor bugger wasn't "himself' they said).

We have seen him do the same to three other companies in 15 years since, each with a bigger "sting".

I now do whatever it takes to clean up grubs like that. The last one owed me almost $20k, and was a Singapore resident, their VAT blokes got this tipoff from Aus, and cleaned him up nicely thanks very much. (It's amazing what confidences people share when they're in another country and fuelled with Mr Walker) :D

Your bloke will no doubt be somewhat protected, as it will be just the company gone bust.

In your shoes, I would imply to the receivers that he was dipping into the till to fund his gambling habit, and construct (nothing illegal) a connection between him personally and the decline in dollars.

Even if you have a very thin story, serve papers on him personally, including a modest sum for damages, loss of future earnings (which can't be legally claimed anyway) etc. Make sure the papers are served in the wee small hours of the morning, and just for fun, serve his wife, and any other directors and their wives as well.

It's not a great cost, and it's amazing what a little stress does to ones remorse glands.

Cheers,

P

[Exador]

Iain,
I now do whatever it takes to clean up grubs like that. The last one owed me almost $20k, and was a Singapore resident, their VAT blokes got this tipoff from Aus, and cleaned him up nicely thanks very much. (It's amazing what confidences people share when they're in another country and fuelled with Mr Walker) :D

Your bloke will no doubt be somewhat protected, as it will be just the company gone bust.

In your shoes, I would imply to the receivers that he was dipping into the till to fund his gambling habit, and construct (nothing illegal) a connection between him personally and the decline in dollars.

Even if you have a very thin story, serve papers on him personally, including a modest sum for damages, loss of future earnings (which can't be legally claimed anyway) etc. Make sure the papers are served in the wee small hours of the morning, and just for fun, serve his wife, and any other directors and their wives as well.

It's not a great cost, and it's amazing what a little stress does to ones remorse glands.

Cheers,

P
The worst grubs I've come across for that soprt of thing are doctors, believe it or not:mad::mad:. I've been ripped off twice by the buggers as well as routinely having payment held up for months. Calls to their office always result in being told that "the doctor is with a patient" and their home numbers are nearly always unlisted. I won't do anything more for any doctor without payment up front. Funnily enough, I don't get many jobs after I mention that :confused::rolleyes:.

If his company is Proprietary and he has acted irresponsibly in failing to provision for debts, he may be liable in so far as he is a Director. That's what I'd be pursuing, as trying to prove misconduct through his gambling may be too expensive and complex unless you can get a sympathetic receiver.

As far as serving papers goes - doing it in the wee small hours may constitute an offence, but I'm still with you all the way. Screw bastards like that to the wall.

[arose62]

So why didn't you hit him where it hurts?

Take up his request to settle his accounts, go visit the folks who owe him money, and tell them that their debt is wiped?

Cheers,
Andrew

[bitingmidge]

As far as serving papers goes - doing it in the wee small hours may constitute an offence.
I'm not suggesting breaking the law... although in local government matters quite often it's easier and cheaper to pay the fine than to pay the application fee.

On a recent project we had to start work at 4.00 am, cleared with EPA but a bit earlier than Council would prefer. The fine for being in breach of a Council bylaw was $20.

When the narky little "just doing my job" inspector came the next day, complete with infringement notice, I handed him a cheque for $140.00 and told him to write six more tickets.

The application fee was $250.00 and six weeks processing... but I digress.

Cheers,

P

[Exador]

I'm not suggesting breaking the law... although in local government matters quite often it's easier and cheaper to pay the fine than to pay the application fee.

On a recent project we had to start work at 4.00 am, cleared with EPA but a bit earlier than Council would prefer. The fine for being in breach of a Council bylaw was $20.

When the narky little "just doing my job" inspector came the next day, complete with infringement notice, I handed him a cheque for $140.00 and told him to write six more tickets.

The application fee was $250.00 and six weeks processing... but I digress.

Cheers,

P

There's always a way around.;) :D

[doublejay]

When the narky little "just doing my job" inspector
He was doing his job. Trying to preserve the amenity of the poor buggers who get woken at all hours of the morning by uncaring builders etc.,

[ozwinner]

Know how you feel Iain.
I am having trouble getting paid from a builder I was doing work for when I hurt my back in August..

He rekons I didnt finish the job, so no payment, gees, I would have finished it if I was able to WALK.

So off the to the debt collectors, AGAIN.

I do know someone who knee caps for a small fee. :cool:

Good luck with it.

Al :(

[bitingmidge]

He was doing his job. Trying to preserve the amenity of the poor buggers who get woken at all hours of the morning by uncaring builders etc.,
Yes, and he's not a bad bloke, but he's the narky sort, trust me. 7 kilometres from the nearest house, starting up the concrete plant in an industrial area so that we could get sufficient production to complete the pour by 5pm. Sometimes even caring builders have to wake up the poor buggers. :D

He REALLY loves his job, and REALLY hates it when he doesn't get up the nose of someone he's trying to get a point across to.

He REALLY REALLY hated the cheque episode.

P

:D :D :D

[echnidna]

knew a building inspector like that once.
he was miraculously cured
after a builder chased him down the road with a 4 x 2.

[Studley 2436]

Back to the original topic I wonder if it it a good idea to call ASIC and ask them what they are doing.

Might be a good idea to get a lawyer to send a letter to him too. Maybe phone A Current Affair, they love the "look at this bastard and what he did to all these true blue battlers for Xmas" type stories.

No crime in any of that, maybe you could force him into liquidation, or have him made ineligable to be a company director.

Whatever you do don't loose your cool. If you blow your top he will win guaranteed. Keep cool and twist the screws on him.

Mind you putting milk in his car doors sounds like a lot of fun.

Studley

[Baz]

Iain, sorry to hear your bad news, maybe you should give his details to the Tax Office, you never know what the bugger has been up to.
You could also write whatever you like on his front lawn in Roundup or Zero.
Cheers
Barry

[ozwinner]

Your all too soft, that why they do it again and again.
Once knee capped, twice shy.

Al :D

[AlexS]

Jeez, I'd hate to make an enemy of any of you blokes!

But I do like the idea of the regular deliveries of plain brown envelopes:D

[bitingmidge]

Your all too soft, that why they do it again and again.
Once knee capped, twice shy.

Had a friend of Slavic extract who had some very large mates, who in turn once earned a nice living just for taking people for rides in the boot of their car.

No threats, no violence, just a half hour drive in the boot of the car, then dropped off in the middle of nowhere.

Well ok, that does constitute violence, and I don't condone it, but it was a brilliant concept, and apparently the debt was often paid before the sun came up the next day!

Cheers,

P

[echnidna]

I'd just tell him you have a friend who collects tobacco pouches made out of scrotums.

[RETIRED]

I'd just tell him you have a friend who collects tobacco pouches made out of scrotums.
What's hunting kangaroos got to do with this Bob?:rolleyes: ;) :D

[rick_rine]

Dont throw any eggs at his car as I understand it can damage the paintwork .

[maglite]

You could always set "the dogs" on him as a last resort.;)
They are reasonably easy to find .


The end result far outweighs that very small pang of conscience that seems to occur when they are let go.
Amazing, how the threat of GBH can bring someone very quickly to their senses........
He wont have to pay everyone but from his point of veiw, you will very quickly become number 1 creditor.

Food for thought
Steve

[Driver]

Iain

We haven't met except through these forums but you strike me as a sensible, decent sort of bloke with a bit of experience of the world and I wouldn't presume to give you advice.

Instead let me tell you about how I have dealt with the sort of situation you face. First of all, I've been tempted, as you no doubt are right now, to indulge in the sort of antics that have been mentioned: anonymous nuisance mail, fiddling with the bastard's car etc etc. However, I've resisted. A very wise bloke I once knew told me many years ago that this is a small world, made smaller by the fact that we tend to move in restricted circles. This means, he said, that your actions - for good or ill - will normally have consequences within the group of people you know.

Bearing this in mind, on a few occasions when I've been on the receiving end of the kind of low-life behaviour currently affecting you, I have resisted the temptation to take petty revenge and instead bided my time. Sure enough, each time I've been presented with an opportunity to do the bastard some damage. And each time, I've made the most of the opportunity.

I won't go into details. Suffice it to say that I've never done anything illegal. Mostly it's been a matter of someone approaching me and asking for an opinion about the low-life. I haven't held back - I've given an honest and accurate character reference.

On two occasions I know that this has caused them serious financial inconvenience.

On one occasion, the @rsehole in question found out that it was me who was the cause of his problem. He fronted me - all outraged. I was happy to explain to him that that's the way the world works - what goes around eventually comes around. That particular @rsehole caused major problems for some other people I know. A friend of mine came close to dying from medical problems brought on by stress. I'm happy to tell you that Friend @rsehole's commercial and personal reputation now smells like an old fish and people avoid the bastard like the plague. Bad cess to him!

Col

[Guy]

well i have been fighting with the NAB for 3 years to get paid for a job i did for them, they claim they never authorised the work as that person never worked for them. However all i got was a fax from them authorising me to procced with the work. The quote was only $6000 however with teh inclusion of late fees ( $35 month) and interest at a rate at 10% higher than there standard 15% loan rate this has ballooned out to $12000.
Every week i just call them up and send them another statement, i did get to talk to the past ceo who promised to pay but next day he was out of work so had to go back to square one.
There are just so many out there like that the above was the biggest hit ive taken

[ozwinner]

A friend of mine was owed some money by a builder I think it was $1000.
The builder refused all efforts to pay it.

So my friend rang for the last time and told him all cheerfully "to keep it, because you will need it for hospital bills".

He got paid. Funny that. :cool:

Al :D

[Iain]

I received a couple of emails over the weekend, one wanting a little more info on a system I was suggesting he use costing about $15k, another from a company who said thay may be intersted in using me on a consulting basis for their systems.
Could be a fairly subtle but painful shafting coming up very soon, just need to make a couple of calls today.
I still have all files and info on MY computer, guess who's not getting it.

[Muddy]

Have fun Iain.
Nice to see the little man get even.
Regards Clay

[echnidna]

well i have been fighting with the NAB for 3 years to get paid for a job i did for them, they claim they never authorised the work as that person never worked for them. However all i got was a fax from them authorising me to procced with the work. The quote was only $6000 however with teh inclusion of late fees ( $35 month) and interest at a rate at 10% higher than there standard 15% loan rate this has ballooned out to $12000.
Every week i just call them up and send them another statement, i did get to talk to the past ceo who promised to pay but next day he was out of work so had to go back to square one.
There are just so many out there like that the above was the biggest hit ive taken

There is an interesting legal tactic you can use.
Start legal proceedings to wind them up.
Then stand back and watch the feathers fly.

[E. maculata]

There is an interesting legal tactic you can use.
Start legal proceedings to wind them up.
Then stand back and watch the feathers fly.


Now that would be interesting to say the least, wonder how if share price would be affected;) .

[TEEJAY]

I received a couple of emails over the weekend, one wanting a little more info on a system I was suggesting he use costing about $15k, another from a company who said thay may be intersted in using me on a consulting basis for their systems.
Could be a fairly subtle but painful shafting coming up very soon, just need to make a couple of calls today.
I still have all files and info on MY computer, guess who's not getting it.

Now don't be gentle ! ;) :)
Cheers

[echnidna]

Now that would be interesting to say the least, wonder how if share price would be affected;) .

There would probably be a kneejerk on the street as well as the stockmarket as all branches would be legally compelled to close their doors

NAB would have to shutdown all ATM's or be in contempt of court.

And there isn't much of a legal defense available too.

And everyone who they owe money too will come in hammer and tong.

Could be a major financial crisis caused by their failure to pay their bills

The threat of starting windup proceedings might work coz if they ignore it they are absolutely wide open.

[Dion N]

The various "personal revenge-schemes" (as opposed to the ideas for obtaining payment) are hardly likely to get Iain's money back. I presume that is his main concern at this point in time...

I find it strange that people on the forum are condemning the revenge based riots in Sydney, but advocating it on a personal level :confused:

[graemet]

I've been away for a couple of days and came back to this thread.
Geez, remind me not to any of youse off!
Cheers
Graeme

[Daddles]

I've been away for a couple of days and came back to this thread.
Geez, remind me not to any of youse off!
Cheers
Graeme

Sorry Graeme. You've just done that. You'll have to start your own thread about it so we can slag you and then hijack it to talk about wooden boats or homebrew:D

Richard