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bitingmidge
29th November 2005, 10:36 AM
While pondering SilentC's search for the traditional Oz kitchen, I got to thinking about my grandmother's kitchen, anzac biscuits, pikelets, shelling peas and of course Iced Vo-Vo's.

Then in a flash of inspiration: THE LEMON CRISP a rather bizarre "bought" biscuit with sweet pastry, a lemon cream filling, and a salty taste.

Couldn't help m'self.

Bought a packet for morning tea (to share!).

Then I noticed the Asian Script on the side of the pack - they're made in Oz to export, the lemon essence smell is still there albeit that one has to sniff harder to find it, the salt is still there, but the flavour and texture are gone!!

RIP The Lemon Crisp.

Cheers,

P
:(

shrek
29th November 2005, 10:54 AM
I'm sure wagon wheels have gotton smaller since I was a kid. :(

bennylaird
29th November 2005, 11:00 AM
Nah, my old wagon had 15" wheels and my new one has 17" ones.

Rocker
29th November 2005, 11:03 AM
the lemon essence smell is still there albeit that one has to sniff harder to find it, the salt is still there, but the flavour and texture are gone!!

P
:(

Peter,

The descent into old age can creep up on you:) As the bard puts it: "The sixth age shifts into the lean and slippered pantaloon, with spectacles on nose and pouch on side ....is second childishness and mere oblivion, sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything." (Hamlet)

Rocker

Christopha
29th November 2005, 11:14 AM
Are "Iced VO VOs' " still around? I loved them as a kid.

silentC
29th November 2005, 11:16 AM
the flavour and texture are gone
I don't recall the particular biscuit of which you speak but I often wonder if our taste buds deteriorate like all the other senses do. Quite a few things don't taste as good to me now as they did when I was a kid.

Cliff Rogers
29th November 2005, 11:30 AM
...Couldn't help m'self.

Bought a packet for morning tea (to share!)....

You do all the important research.... :D

Who else would worry about the declining standards & eminent demise of good old aussie biscuits from last century? :rolleyes:

I don't think you'll have a problem retiring, you'll find something to do I'm sure. :p

bitingmidge
29th November 2005, 11:37 AM
Who else would worry about the declining standards & eminent demise of good old aussie biscuits from last century? :rolleyes:

Dick Smith?? :eek: :eek: :eek:

It's a tough job, I'll admit, but someone has to do it!

P
:D :D

Cliff Rogers
29th November 2005, 11:38 AM
...I often wonder if our taste buds deteriorate like all the other senses do. Quite a few things don't taste as good to me now as they did when I was a kid.

I don't think they deteriorate, I think they 'develope'....
some things taste HEAPS better now than what they did when I was a kid....

Beer, wine, port, coffee, any cheese other than Kraft Processed Cheddar, pumpkin, (my mum had to put sugar on it to get me to eat it, love it now) cabbage, brussell sprouts, lemon tart, sorbet, brazil nuts..... there are more but I can't think of them.

Cliff Rogers
29th November 2005, 11:40 AM
Dick Smith?? :eek: :eek: :eek:

....

A case in point (silly saying)....
There is a bloke who doesn't really need to work but feels he must. :D

silentC
29th November 2005, 11:55 AM
some things taste HEAPS better now than what they did when I was a kid
Are you sure that's not a symptom of the same problem?

zenwood
29th November 2005, 12:32 PM
Believe it or not, you have just raised a philosophical problem to do with the existence of 'qualia'. Here's a story (see Hofstadter and Dennett, The Mind's I):<o =""></o><o =""></o>
Once upon a time, there were two coffee tasters, Mr. Chase and Mr. Sanborn, who worked for Maxwell House. Along with half a dozen other coffee tasters, their job was to ensure that the taste of Maxwell House stayed constant, year after year. One day, about six years after Mr. Chase had come to work for Maxwell House, he cleared his throat and confessed to Mr. Sanborn:<o =""></o>
“You know, I hate to admit it, but I’m not enjoying this work any more. When I came to Maxwell House six years ago, I thought Maxwell House coffee was the best-tasting coffee in the world. I was proud to have a share in the responsibility for preserving that flavour over the years. And we’ve done our job well; the coffee tastes today just the way it tasted when I arrived. But, you know, I no longer like it! My tastes have changed. I’ve become a more sophisticated coffee drinker. I no longer like that taste at all."
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Sanborn greeted this revelation with considerable interest. “It’s funny you should mention it,” he replied, “for something rather similar has happened to me. When I arrived here, shortly before you did, I, like you, thought Maxwell House coffee was tops in flavour. And now I, like you, really don’t care for the coffee we’re making. But my tastes haven’t changed; my ... tasters have changed. That is, I think something has gone wrong with my taste buds or something—you know, the way your taste buds go off when you take a bite of pancakes and maple syrup and then go back to your orange juice? Maxwell House coffee doesn’t taste to me the way it used to taste; if only it did, I’d still love it, for I still think that taste is the best taste in coffee. Now, I’m not saying we haven’t done our job well. You other guys all agree that the taste is the same, so it must be my problem alone. I guess I’m no longer cut out for this work.”
<o =""> </o>How do you tell the difference between these two people’s situations? Beer is an acquired taste—you gradually learn to like the flavour; but what flavour? The flavour of the first sip? But that flavour was horrible. What you do is acquire a different enjoyable way of tasting.

If you think you can confirm your opinions about your own tastes, then there is a possibility you might be wrong!

Sorry about that. You have got my mouth watering for Lemon Crisps now.

Iain
29th November 2005, 12:46 PM
I never acquired a taste for my MIL's cooking
Or my SIL's boiled rice, one cup rice, four cups water, boil violently for one hour, serve, resembles hot clag

oges
29th November 2005, 01:00 PM
Are "Iced VO VOs' " still around? I loved them as a kid.
I believe they are, although they also seem smaller and not as thick an icing anymore.

bennylaird
29th November 2005, 01:05 PM
Back to basics, home made ANZAC bikkies still taste the same trouble is most get eaten before they can cool down at our place.

Just awakened memories of Mum's Pavs, sadly missed.

Zed
29th November 2005, 01:29 PM
I would like to find the "jaffa" bisciuts from my youth - they were choc wth orange flavour on a thin wafer. delicious. cant find them anymore....

evidently taste buds develop the more you exercise them, NOT deteriorate. I dont care though - I wont be eating bleached cows stomach no matter how good they say it tastes....

craigb
29th November 2005, 01:30 PM
Are "Iced VO VOs' " still around? I loved them as a kid.

http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showthread.php?t=15121&highlight=iced+vo-vo

What is it with Midge and biscuits? :p :D

zenwood
29th November 2005, 02:04 PM
I believe they are, although they also seem smaller and not as thick an icing anymore.
Yep: you can even get 'em on-line:

http://www.aucatalog.bigstep.com/category.html?UCIDs=1144053

silentC
29th November 2005, 02:14 PM
Why is it so hard to believe that your sense of taste could decline in the same way that your hearing and eyesight can? I reckon taste is a decidedly dodgey sense to rely on, given how easy it is to stuff it up by cleaning your teeth before drinking red wine or eating chillies before icecream.

Cliff Rogers
29th November 2005, 04:18 PM
Why is it so hard to believe that your sense of taste could decline in the same way that your hearing and eyesight can? .....


'cos things that used to taste crook now taste good & things that used to taste good are now far far too sweet.

The sense of smell also changes & I know a few people who have lost their's.
I used to hate the smell of those 'big city' 'flash murray' coffee shops with all the gourmet cheese & sheyet but now I can't walk past one without stopping.

Curry is another 'aquired' sensation that I now enjoy but hated as a kid.

Bodgy
29th November 2005, 04:27 PM
What happened to those big, round 'Choclate Digestive' biscuits one used to get, individually wrapped in foil - blue for milk choclate and red for dark?

There is a pale imitation available in packets of about 18, but they're a poor copy. In the search for ever lower production costs, did the manufacturer slowly immasculate his product to the insipid, ghost of glories past?

Is nothing sacred?

Iain
29th November 2005, 04:50 PM
Pablo Coffee

Termite
29th November 2005, 05:31 PM
Pablo Coffee

http://www.ubeaut.biz/throwup.gif That stuff was bloody terrible.

ozwinner
29th November 2005, 06:16 PM
Pablo Coffee

It aint coffee!!

Al :eek:

echnidna
29th November 2005, 06:53 PM
Dick Smith?? :eek: :eek: :eek:

It's a tough job, I'll admit, but someone has to do it!

P
:D :D

isn't he the fellow who was a P.M.G. Tech who opened an electronics shop selling cut price imported components , thus starting the decline in aussie electronics manufacturing ?:D :D :D :D

Driver
29th November 2005, 07:38 PM
Why is it so hard to believe that your sense of taste could decline in the same way that your hearing and eyesight can? I reckon taste is a decidedly dodgey sense to rely on, given how easy it is to stuff it up by cleaning your teeth before drinking red wine or eating chillies before icecream.

I don't think it's hard to believe at all. I think it's demonstrably true that your sense of taste changes as you age. However, the good news is that the change seems to be a gradual maturing process rather than a decline.

What I mean is that when your hearing starts to worsen and your sight becomes attenuated, you don't function as well as you did previously. Whereas your sense of taste develops so you can enjoy food that is more robust in flavour - or more subtle.

I agree with Cliff. When I was a kid I couldn't stand coffee, red wine, strong cheese, onions, olives and a rack of other food and drink that I relish these days.

Pat
29th November 2005, 07:40 PM
For a decent size Wagon wheel, go to the Bakery on the Southern side of The Princes' Hwy at Berry, NSW. 4" diameter!!!!

ozwinner
29th November 2005, 07:42 PM
True, years ago I couldnt stand the taste of pussy cat but now?? :rolleyes: :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p
Meowwwww. :eek:

Dont worry Wongo, I dont live anywhere near you so your supply is safe.

Al :D

Termite
29th November 2005, 08:08 PM
I don't think it's hard to believe at all. I think it's demonstrably true that your sense of taste changes as you age. However, the good news is that the change seems to be a gradual maturing process rather than a decline.

What I mean is that when your hearing starts to worsen and your sight becomes attenuated, you don't function as well as you did previously. Whereas your sense of taste develops so you can enjoy food that is more robust in flavour - or more subtle.

I agree with Cliff. When I was a kid I couldn't stand coffee, red wine, strong cheese, onions, olives and a rack of other food and drink that I relish these days.

I agree, I do, and always have, loved all varieties of cheese. I was introduced to cheeses when we moved into a "multicultural suburb " when I was about 14.
I love all of them and in particular some of the beaut cheeses that come out of the Bass Straight islands. But the one that tops them all is a good Danish Blue that will just about rip the sinuses right out of your head, mould rules.:D

Cliff Rogers
29th November 2005, 09:48 PM
Tassie Triple Brie or a White Costello. ;)


Hearing changes can also be 'aquired' or 'developed'....
take for instance domestic deafness. :rolleyes:

Driver
29th November 2005, 10:01 PM
Tassie Triple Brie or a White Costello. ;)


Hearing changes can also be 'aquired' or 'developed'....
take for instance domestic deafness. :rolleyes:


Pardon?

Cliff Rogers
29th November 2005, 10:25 PM
25 past 9 ya silly old fool. :D

Wongo
29th November 2005, 10:47 PM
Because this thread I have finally decided to buy a biscuit joiner for Xmas. Thanks everyone for the inspiration. :D

Al, no problem mate. A good mate of mine works for the RSPCA so supply is never an issue.:D

Cliff Rogers
29th November 2005, 10:51 PM
Wongo mate, the biscuits we were talking about are.... never mind, :rolleyes:

Have fun.

PS: Al, you can get them at the Tounge N Groove Cafe too. :D

Schtoo
29th November 2005, 11:59 PM
All of you can go to heck.

I was happily sitting here, sated by my dinner of grilled yellowtail, stir fried lotus root, rice and sesame tofu.

I am now kicking holes in the walls for a ^%^%$ biscuit. Mongrels... :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:


On the taste of things, I find mine has changed wildly since I came here. I can and will eat things I would never have before.

Stuff like tofu. The stuff you get there is garbage. Gritty, tasteless snot.

Here, you can pick whatever colour or flavour you want, most of it is pretty good and it's not labelled as an 'alternative to meat', but rather just something else to eat. Pretty good mashed in with mince meat, some other bits and pieces and garnished with lots of peppers.

That, and I don't get all excited over sweet stuff too often anymore. Even use less sugar in my coffee, and I used to have a sweet tooth the size of the opera house. Going to the US was almost sickening at how sweet stuff was. Heck, I went to some place back in Melbourne that does all kinds of coffee scrolls, and I had to throw the thing out. That hurt, as I never used to back down from sweet stuff...

Anyways, I think everyone should try anything they come across that's eaten by people. At least try it, don't have to like it.

Which is why I still don't eat sushi. Fish flavoured chewing gum just doesn't work for me...

Mr. Midge, sorry about the Lemon Crisps. I liked them too.

P.S. Anyone want to send me a box of coconut rough? One thing I could really enjoy. Even one. :(

Cliff Rogers
30th November 2005, 12:05 AM
I think I might have a couple of Tim Tams left in the fridge upstairs, interested? :D

& there is 1 & a half packets of Dick Smith Anzacs down here in the workshop. :p

bitingmidge
30th November 2005, 07:54 AM
Because this thread I have finally decided to buy a biscuit joiner for Xmas. Thanks everyone for the inspiration. :D

Why don't you do what I do?

Just leave the TimTams in the sun for a while, then pop the whole packet in the fridge. In half an hour or so, they're all joined!!

No need for any expensive machinery!

cheers,

P
:D :D :D

Iain
30th November 2005, 07:59 AM
Whilst Tim Tams display the torsional strength they do not adhere well unless using cross linked chocolate.

ele__13
30th November 2005, 08:14 AM
P.S. Anyone want to send me a box of coconut rough? One thing I could really enjoy. Even one. :([/quote]

our mathew is off to Japan on sat morning where r u he is going to be in Kawasaki for 18 mths teaching english !!!


if not we willbe over next yr

and thank god we grew outa Pablo coffeee ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

give me maconna or good drip cofee any day
from jules the starbucks junkie

Iain
30th November 2005, 08:29 AM
Pablo must have been good coffee, after it went missing for a while I noticed it back on the supermarket shelves recently.
Some people have no taste whatsoever, it was the one brew that was worse than International Roast.
Thank God for my espresso machine and blow your head off Doro Forte (which I only have recently acquired a taste for) and some of Gloria Jeans brews.
My other pet hate is bottled sauces for chicken etc, same for curries, much prefer to grind my own pastes etc, and Coca Cola, unless you were weaned on it I don't think you can really enjoy it.
And for , I hate tea..............

Bodgy
30th November 2005, 09:10 AM
[quote=Iain], and Coca Cola, unless you were weaned on it I don't think you can really enjoy it.
quote]

Nothing better for the dry horrors in the morning after a big night.

Schtoo
1st December 2005, 03:47 AM
Tell him to bring aspirin, deodorant and anti-dandruff shampoo, if he needs any of them. If not, don't worry.

Aspirin (insert any decent pain killer here) is unobtainium, but he can bring some with him. The give him any grief, there is an allowance to bring in certain medicines, simply because you are not Japanese. Don't bother with cold medecine, as A: they might get real upset and B: the local stuff aint half bad.

Deodorant and the shampoo, local stuff doesn't cut it.

Toothpaste is gritty, toothbrushes are ok, but a little wimpy. That's about it I think.

Plus anything else he can't live without.

The things they don't tell you in the guide books, huh? :D

Tim tams? Can buy them at (drumroll please)...



Toys R us.

Crazy stuff. :confused: :eek: :D

ele__13
1st December 2005, 05:56 AM
thanks for the info .... ill tell him when he wakes up jules btw where r u in japn .. mat is going to be in kawasaki

Schtoo
1st December 2005, 12:59 PM
Takamatsu.

Yer going to have fun finding it... ;)

Termite
1st December 2005, 03:12 PM
Takamatsu.

Yer going to have fun finding it... ;)

Schtoo, the person going is Mathew, not sue, and why would he want to take a mat? Don't they have any in Japan. :D

craigb
1st December 2005, 03:48 PM
Schtoo, the person going is Mathew, not sue, and why would he want to take a mat? Don't they have any in Japan. :D

Groan
Thtat's the worse one this week. :p ;)

BTW, how did a thread called RIP the Lemon Crisp end up as a search for accomodation in Japan?

Termite
1st December 2005, 04:54 PM
Groan
Thtat's the worse one this week. :p ;)

BTW, how did a thread called RIP the Lemon Crisp end up as a search for accomodation in Japan?

Someone has to drag the standard down, there's been so many good ones lately I'm having trouble handing out greenies. :D

Schtoo
1st December 2005, 04:59 PM
I could plead the fifth, but that doesn't count here nor there.

You know how these things happen, one thing leads to another and you end up staring down a shotgun at the altar...

Oops, wrong analogy. Sorry. :D

Termite
1st December 2005, 05:11 PM
You know how these things happen, one thing leads to another and you end up staring down a shotgun at the altar...

Oops, wrong analogy. Sorry. :D

Too late now Schtoo, the cat's out of the bag.........c'mon spill your guts. :D
Or did her Dad threaten threaten to do it for you. :D

Sturdee
1st December 2005, 05:23 PM
And for , I hate tea..............

But he also serves coffee, if you ask nicely.:D


Peter.

Iain
1st December 2005, 05:34 PM
NOt 'real' coffee...........
And he describes me as having one of those motorised coffee things on his kitchen bench, referring to the espresso machne.

Schtoo
1st December 2005, 05:38 PM
Actually, out of most of the guys I know here that are hitched, I'm about the only one that wasn't coaxed into making an honest woman out of her. Been married for nearly 2 years now, no baby.

Yet...

That tune will change in April. ;)


Oh yeah, on the subject of coffee.

Nothing better than when it's brass monkey weather and yer stuck outside than a can of hot coffee. The coffee isn't bad and it's still a novelty for me, especially in the winter. :D

Termite
1st December 2005, 05:45 PM
Nothing better than when it's brass monkey weather and yer stuck outside than a can of hot coffee.

Canned coffee!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Schtoo
1st December 2005, 05:49 PM
http://www.cocacola.co.jp/webshop/georgia_pages/georgia_imgs/bk_georgia.gif

And that's just one brand. :D

Termite
1st December 2005, 06:23 PM
Stupid question 101.
How does it get hot.......if you've got to heat it on a stove then you might as well make your own brew. :confused:

Christopha
1st December 2005, 07:35 PM
and wait for the explosion!!!!

Schtoo
1st December 2005, 10:36 PM
How do they keep pies hot?

Same thing.

The vending machines can do hot or cold, depending on the time of year. Most of the convenience stores also have fridges that do the same trick.

One place I work at, you slip in a tray, plug it into the fridge, slide some 'blinds' around the hot bit and the same fridge does hot and cold drinks at the same time.

Any more questions about the, ahem, interesting stuff around here?

And yes they do have the christmas muzak playing away here too. Haven't quite worked out why just yet though...

craigb
1st December 2005, 10:39 PM
I once stumbled on this site devoted to Japanese vending machines.

They have some truely bizarre machines over there. :eek:

If I was to explain further I'd have to take it to the orange room. :o :eek:

Driver
1st December 2005, 10:54 PM
I once stumbled on this site devoted to Japanese vending machines.

They have some truely bizarre machines over there. :eek:

If I was to explain further I'd have to take it to the orange room. :o :eek:


Now 'ang on, son! Ya can't leave it there! :rolleyes:

craigb
1st December 2005, 11:13 PM
Now 'ang on, son! Ya can't leave it there! :rolleyes:

I'll start a thread in the orange room if I can find the original web page again. :o

boban
1st December 2005, 11:17 PM
Coca Cola, unless you were weaned on it I don't think you can really enjoy it.


I love black gold with a heap of ice. Nothing better with food IMHO.

This from a person who hates beer and wine and a son of someone who loves it a little too much....

Iain
2nd December 2005, 07:41 AM
But I do like Pepsi, completely different drink.