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neksmerj
4th July 2015, 07:48 PM
I'm sure this freezing cold snap is buggering up a lot of machines, throwing out bed tolerances blah, blah.

That reminds me, when I saw Machtool this morning he was jumping up and down to get some circulation into his feet. Forgot to put on that second pair of sox.

I've got that solved as I type this, I have two hot water bottles resting on both feet.

Someone should invent a double skinned pair of gumboots with hot water in between the layers.

I'll buy the first hot water boot.

Ken

KBs PensNmore
4th July 2015, 08:01 PM
You could wear a wet suit and P.. in it. It's like going to work in a dark suit and doing the same, gives you a warm feeling but no one notices.:rolleyes:
Kryn

simonl
4th July 2015, 08:11 PM
Last week I had a few hours up my sleeve so I went for a sea kayak to French Island and back. I remember looking at the sea temps for westernport when looking at the tide times…. 12 degrees. I figured I better make extra effort not to fall in! :cool:
No I didn't wear a wetsuite or drysuite, I like to live on the edge! :D

Not sure if it's a cold winter or that I'm just getting older. I wore a bennie at work today. Don't think I have ever worn my work issued beanie before.

Simon

jack620
4th July 2015, 08:52 PM
These are good. Much cheaper at Costco if you are a member.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/30-Pairs-LITTLE-HOTTIES-Adhesive-TOE-Warmers-Foot-Heater-Heat-Pack-Socks-Insert-/231554272493?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item35e9b5cced

eskimo
4th July 2015, 09:13 PM
As i have become older i seem to be feeling the cold more. My feet and hands were like icicles.
Last year I softened and began wearing cheap long polypropelyne thermals. Works for me.
But for those who want the latest...yiu can get battery heated jackets and boots etc.

janvanruth
5th July 2015, 06:00 AM
You could wear a wet suit and P.. in it. It's like going to work in a dark suit and doing the same, gives you a warm feeling but no one notices.:rolleyes:
Kryn


P..ing in your suit is like marriage
hot for a short while in the beginning but after that cold for a very long time..

Robson Valley
5th July 2015, 10:19 AM
Cold feet? Come on, it can't be that bad. The next time you're out to shovel the 90cm from last night's dump and it's a balmy -10C, say hi to me.

Competent sources of footwear, particularly if you aren't moving too much:
1. Sorrel "Felt-pacs" have removable felt liners to become dry again. Winter outdoor footwear of choice.
2. Snowmobile rider's boots. My size 12's are enormous = barefoot at -20C for a short drive to the store is no biggie.
Removable liners as well.
Snowmobile rider's gloves look like space-suit leftovers, they are far warmer than I expected and the sense of manual dexterity is excellent.
There's usually a goggle-wiping squeegee blade on the index finger of the left glove. DON'T attempt to wipe your nose drible with it,
no matter how cold it is but you won't feel the cut so that's OK.
3. There is footwear for -50C. That stuff never comes cheap.

DSEL74
5th July 2015, 10:47 AM
What about these to keep your feet warm??
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3-7v-Battery-Heated-Socks-Electric-Power-sock-Rechargeable-batteries-included/151603435206?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140117125611%26meid%3D635be93133004707ad98bdd9f0d8ac40%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D231554272493

BobL
5th July 2015, 11:13 AM
Perth just had its warmest June ever since record keeping began, with an average high of 21 and average low of 10ºC

We've had our heater on twice this year.

Robson Valley
5th July 2015, 11:25 AM
Electronics friend says the battery-powered socks and mittens aren't cost effective.
I am more than pleased with my Snowmobile boots, I forget to make any special effort
to put on extra thick wool socks and that doesn't seem to have been an issue.
They may look gigantic and clumsy but everybody else is wearing more or less the same in winter.

Heating your home? I get 6 months of no mud, dust or bugs in winter. Some unusual snowfalls
in late December and on into Feb, but we all got through it, one more time. No chances of even long-run-out
avalanches ever reaching the village. Bunch of highway closures but you wait a day or two and those get
cleared when there's no threat of the plow-guys getting buried.
I burned 4.5 tons (9,000lbs) compressed woood pellets in my Harman PP38+ pellet stove.
Not much more than usual. Downstairs kitchen where the stove is ran about 26C all winter,
Upstairs kitchen 18 - 20C which is OK.

Must admit, when it was raining, really windy from the south and 3C or 4C, Melbourne
had to be about the coldest place I've ever lived.

Handyjack
5th July 2015, 10:42 PM
Is that Melbourne, Canada, or Melbourne, Victoria, Australia?

Robson Valley
6th July 2015, 01:33 AM
Melbourne, Victora, Australia. 4 years. PhD/LaTrobe/Bundoora.

wheelinround
6th July 2015, 10:53 AM
9.45am and just 7C so in my shed till after 11/Noon it will be about 3C then the sun comes round for 2 hrs till shade of trees block it again. Many years ago when in workshop as an apprentice I felt the cold my hands mainly on of the old blokes asked to borrow my heal dolly so I handed it over. Slowly he warmed it with the oxy handed it back and said stick it in my pocket :o so that winter was warm. I still have the dolly and no harm softening happened due to warming it.

My son has a battery warmed coat for these sort of days he works out doors and feels the cold.

I found this idea http://www.allmats.com/site/439205/page/443363

Now days it the legs mainly I feel it in lined boots long woolen socks and knitted leg warmers help as well as a small fan heater:cold:

eskimo
6th July 2015, 11:19 AM
Cold feet? Come on, it can't be that bad. The next time you're out to shovel the 90cm from last night's dump and it's a balmy -10C, say hi to me.

Competent sources of footwear, particularly if you aren't moving too much:
1. Sorrel "Felt-pacs" have removable felt liners to become dry again. Winter outdoor footwear of choice.
2. Snowmobile rider's boots. My size 12's are enormous = barefoot at -20C for a short drive to the store is no biggie.
Removable liners as well.
Snowmobile rider's gloves look like space-suit leftovers, they are far warmer than I expected and the sense of manual dexterity is excellent.
There's usually a goggle-wiping squeegee blade on the index finger of the left glove. DON'T attempt to wipe your nose drible with it,
no matter how cold it is but you won't feel the cut so that's OK.
3. There is footwear for -50C. That stuff never comes cheap.

but we live in a warm climate ...not an already bloody freezing one...and then the thermometer still wants to keeps going lower.....

I'd die over there...lol

eskimo
6th July 2015, 11:21 AM
I burned 4.5 tons (9,000lbs) compressed woood pellets i

so your the ones making all the carbon...why didnt labour introduce a carbon tax on Canada...we could be rich:D

Robson Valley
6th July 2015, 02:53 PM
Not a freakin' chance. I'm carbon ZERO = what the trees take out, I replace. I run solar power. We run gigawatts of hydroelectric power. Not a particularly steep carbon footprint when compared with a country full of methane-pharting cattle and coal-fired electical supply. Not to say you don't do better and the tax breaks ought to be fantastic. However, BIG OIL does not want your government to give you the chance. Step up to the wicket. What are you waiting for? Stuph them.

Run-Of-The-River? Brand spankin' new 6MW station should open next month on the Castle. So far up hill, there's not a fish on this planet that should be concerned.

You want to see carbon dioxide and wild fires? 8AM today Global News, BC 61 fires, AB 121 fires, SK 114 fires, the guys in the ISS are sending pix. SK alone, maybe 8,000+ evacs and whole villages incinerated.

simonl
6th July 2015, 02:59 PM
That was a big bite Eskimo! [emoji1]
Seriously though, nice work on your sustainable energy setup!

Simon

Robson Valley
6th July 2015, 03:17 PM
The really crazy part is to run LED house lighting. They suck so little power to light the rooms I'm in in the evening, the inverter display
registers no significant draw! CF lights don't start well in the cold = by the time I'm done in that room, those stupid bulbs haven't even warmed up>>>garbage.
Plus, the LEDs are pointed in the direction of value, they don't spray useless light all over the house.

I need more deep cycle batteries = that's where I store the juice, that's where I get the juice to feed the inverter.
Friend of mine has 12 x 12VDC Caterpillar batteries. How I wish.

brontehls
6th July 2015, 08:00 PM
Canberra can be a bit cool in the winter and every Sunday I spend 11 hours selling Ugg Boots and slippers etc in a huge unheated, cold, drafty concrete floored ex bus garage.

Customers and other stall holders are amazed that I don't wear Ugg boots myself as their feet are freezing

$12.50 insoles - Clark thin closed cell foam with a sheepskin upper layer sewn to it

Makes any shoe into the bottom half of an Ugg boot

Magic

Neil

Evanism
7th July 2015, 03:25 AM
Canberra can be a bit cool in the winter and every Sunday I spend 11 hours selling Ugg Boots and slippers etc in a huge unheated, cold, drafty concrete floored ex bus garage.

luxury!

I have driving snow blasting in at me with gale forced winds through a gaping hole in the roof at 3am while I'm on my lathe. The tea turns to a solid chunk of ice in mere minutes.

There is only dirt on the floor and it's so cold I've seen the wood fire freeze solid!

My rags are so thin I can almost see through them and as for shoes! Bah! I use old burlap sacks and a bit of electrical wire to hold them on!

Pure luxury!

eskimo
7th July 2015, 09:15 AM
That was a big bite Eskimo! [emoji1]


Simon

it was meant to be a swipe at our now defunct carbon tax....obviously, it didnt go across that way tho...lol

Uncle Al
7th July 2015, 09:28 AM
luxury!

I have driving snow blasting in at me with gale forced winds through a gaping hole in the roof at 3am while I'm on my lathe. The tea turns to a solid chunk of ice in mere minutes.

There is only dirt on the floor and it's so cold I've seen the wood fire freeze solid!

My rags are so thin I can almost see through them and as for shoes! Bah! I use old burlap sacks and a bit of electrical wire to hold them on!

Pure luxury!

And I suppose that when you go out to milk the cows, you break the milk off in sticks?:)

Alan...

Robson Valley
7th July 2015, 09:48 AM
My dad grew up on a farm just outside the capital city of Regina, Saskatchewan. Winter blizzards of -30C and 3 days still happened when I was a kid.
Anyway, they had rope handlines from the house to all of the livestock buildings. If you lost your sense of direction, they'd find you in the spring when the snow melted.

I don't mind the snowy winters in this mountain village. Several heliski companies fly out of here. McBride was voted the top snowmobile destination in North America so those people are here by the hundreds and big spenders, too. 300km groomed XC & snowmobile trails and some warming cabins but I'm sure they're nothing like the Cleve Cole Hut up on the Bogong High Plains (did that in winter). My workshop is the room next to the kitchen where the wood stove runs 24/7 so it's 17C or better = my wood carving season.

Grumpy John
7th July 2015, 07:52 PM
luxury!

I have driving snow blasting in at me with gale forced winds through a gaping hole in the roof at 3am while I'm on my lathe. The tea turns to a solid chunk of ice in mere minutes.

There is only dirt on the floor and it's so cold I've seen the wood fire freeze solid!

My rags are so thin I can almost see through them and as for shoes! Bah! I use old burlap sacks and a bit of electrical wire to hold them on!

Pure luxury!

Isn't that a Monty Python sketch? :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo

kiwigeo
10th July 2015, 02:32 PM
Not a freakin' chance. I'm carbon ZERO = what the trees take out, I replace. I run solar power. We run gigawatts of hydroelectric power. Not a particularly steep carbon footprint when compared with a country full of methane-pharting cattle and coal-fired electical supply. Not to say you don't do better and the tax breaks ought to be fantastic. However, BIG OIL does not want your government to give you the chance. Step up to the wicket. What are you waiting for? Stuph them.



Big oil doesn't run the coal fired power stations in this country and it doesn't own alot of farms so why blame them for this country's backwards approach to green energy? At one stage BP (an oil company) was the leading supplier of PV systems. Why not direct the barbs at the foreign companies that own a majority of our energy utilities?

A large part of the problem is the lack of financial incentive to install environmentally friendly technologies such as PV systems, battery based domestic power systems, waste water treatment systems etc...and that comes down primarily to a government with a lack of foresight and the power of utility companies in this country to simply up their rates to maintain their profit margin as soon as they start losing customers who take up the new technologies.

I'm about to build a new house and Id love to install a huge PV system, a battery based domestic power system and grey water treatment system....BUT it's just not financially viable. The pay back periods on all these systems is just far too long. Even running the house on rain water will barely break even over the expected life of the tanks. Ill instal a PV system that just meets my day time consumption and the house will run on rain water...but that's all I'll be doing.

Bob38S
11th July 2015, 07:38 PM
We ran our house on 2 x 5000 gallon rainwater tanks for 20 odd years, no real problems apart from buying 5 odd truckloads of water (approx 2000 gal each) during severe droughts.

Then a new estate was developed nearby and town water was part of the developers requirement. Didn't bother me - Wrong - council said it went past my boundary, therefore they had supplied it and I had to pay the supply fees whether I connected or not.

In other words check out the fine print if you are thinking of going off the grid for water.