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nine fingers
14th January 2014, 05:11 PM
My work area is under a split level house, very pleasent today,24 cel :D:D, (74) outside Geelong temp 43.9:o:o (110.5 ) . John.
Christos
14th January 2014, 05:28 PM
Cool
steamingbill
14th January 2014, 06:09 PM
44 outside according to my thermometer but the official local temp at Traralgon airport is only 41
snowyskiesau
14th January 2014, 06:20 PM
It's a balmy 34 here. Almost turned the air conditioner on at one point. :)
Not sure about the shed, I've been inside all day at the computer.
rod1949
14th January 2014, 06:22 PM
On Saturday inside my shed it was 47 degrees and when I put the thermometer out in the full sun it went off the scale to about 70 degrees, so one was gettig cooked.
Moti
14th January 2014, 07:06 PM
Just under the roof of the shed, 59.9 degrees this afternoon at 2:41. In the shed itself 43 degrees at about the same time.
Still 39 degrees at the moment.
Coburg, Melbourne Weather (http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/128833299/WeatherGL.htm)
doug3030
14th January 2014, 07:21 PM
47 degrees in the shed with the exhaust fans on to help circulate the air to stop heat buildup from the sun on the roof. (4,30 this arvo)
Of course I am not in the shed. I am in the airconditioned house. another week of my holidays without shed time it appears. :((
RETIRED
14th January 2014, 07:54 PM
39 in the shed since about lunch time but reached 47 in "Siberia" and yes, I was working in there.
Sturdee
14th January 2014, 08:15 PM
26 in the workshop at 2.00 pm which was fine but as I had to go to the timber shed to get some wood I was affected by the heat so I knocked of.:)
The joy of being retired is that I can chose when to do things.:2tsup:
Peter.
Bushmiller
14th January 2014, 08:45 PM
Two weekends ago my three walled shed was at 43.9 C. I had to leave: Not as tough as !
Regards
Paul
Grommett
14th January 2014, 08:53 PM
Nah
Spent the day in ac comfort doing the clubs financial report.
Sir Stinkalot
14th January 2014, 09:09 PM
According to the BOM it reached 45.1 deg outside today at 1:55pm.
I would hate to think what it would have been in the garage. It was batten down the hatches today in preparation of the heat with internal and external blinds drawn to prevent the heat build up. Seemed to work ok as the air conditioner stayed off until the Stinkette came home from work ........ soft :B
crowie
14th January 2014, 09:53 PM
Yes, you mob in the southern states have been copping it big time while Sydney & its surrounding areas have not had the consistent 40's only high 30's.....
I too have a shed under the house which helps when I can get there......
What I don't like is the high overnight temperatures, you can't sleep!!!
As my old mum said to me many a time......Keep cool, drink plenty of water and keep out of the sun.....
PS - I hope no-one off the forum lost homes in the west's awful fires.....
rwbuild
14th January 2014, 10:05 PM
Poor mans air con works well
Hessian bag or bath towel, soak in water, hang over back of chair, sit fan on chair seat, nice cool breeze, replenish wet bag or towel every 1/2 hr
Thats what we did when I was a kid
AlexS
15th January 2014, 08:18 AM
Some of you may be interested in how official temperatures are measured, and why they are sometimes different to those you measure in your back yard or workshop.
The thermometer may be a mercury thermometer read once or more times a day, or an electronic thermometer linked to a data logger recording continuously and transmitting regularly. In the past, continuous data was collected on chart recorders and digitised manually. These are probably extinct at official stations now.
Thermometers and other meteorological instruments are housed in a Stevenson Screen. This is a white-painted box with a solid top and bottom four slatted sides, which shade the instruments, and allow a free flow of air through the screen while preventing wind from blowing onto the instruments, which would change the indicated temperature. The base of the screen is 1.2m above ground level, and the ground should be a natural surface, such as grass, not concrete or other hard surface. These specifications are designed to ensure that the temperature of the thermometer is the same as that of the surrounding air. There are specified clearance distances that the instruments must be from walls and other obstructions, as these can affect temperature readings by shading or providing heat sources. Other instruments such as rain gauges also have clearance requirements.
Remember that what is being read or recorded is the temperature of the thermometer. If you are using an exposed thermometer in your backyard, radiant energy from the sun may mean that the thermometer is much hotter than the ambient atmosphere. If a strong wind is blowing, the thermometer may be cooler than ambient. Near walls, localised temperatures may be hotter or cooler than ambient.
How these recorded temperatures relate to how you feel is complex and subjective, involving not only temperature, but humidity, whether or not you are in the sun, whether there is a breeze and your personal preference. I am more comfortable working at 40deg in low humidity than at 30 deg at high humidity.
More information available here (http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/cdo/about/sites.shtml).
I hope this is of interest, and helps explain why there are differences between official figures and how you feel.
Optimark
15th January 2014, 09:32 AM
This may also help some, although most members here have probably been around long enough to know anyway.
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Mick.
A Duke
15th January 2014, 10:07 AM
Hi,
Doesn't matter what you come up with some one comes up with something different, I believed the colour thing but have recently read that it is a myth, also read that more people have died from drinking too much water than from dehydration. That came out when a lost hiker was found dead from too much water and not exposure as expected. I had never heard of anyone die from drinking too much water. I know you have to take it easy when you get to water when you are desperate.
Water a little bit of which can spoil a lot of good Whisky. But then I am a teetotaller, so wouldn't know.
Regards
jimbur
15th January 2014, 11:03 AM
No 6. Dehydrated or have been eating asparagus.:D
This may also help some, although most members here have probably been around long enough to know anyway.
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Mick.
RETIRED
15th January 2014, 04:51 PM
How drinking too much water could kill you (http://health.ninemsn.com.au/healthnews/8534830/how-drinking-too-much-water-could-kill-you)
Bushmiller
15th January 2014, 06:53 PM
How drinking too much water could kill you (http://health.ninemsn.com.au/healthnews/8534830/how-drinking-too-much-water-could-kill-you)
You have raised an interesting question here and in fact in the broader scheme of things too. For example how many things are there that were done for centuries and then we are suddenly informed that we shouldn't be doing this. We shouldn't eat eggs, milk and any number of different foods.
I have long been annoyed by people (mainly SWMBO) telling me I must drink more. By and large I drink (water) on demand: Demand of my body. This means that in winter I tend to drink less and in the hot summer months more; A lot more.
I would be guilty at times of not drinking enough, as a flushing process occurs as the result of drinking and this I'm sure is good for you, but I don't believe my water intake is particularly bad. I am aslo guilty of not replenishing salt as I add almost no salt to my food. There is another contentious issue as the common salt we buy is not a good salt. (Compare it to rock salt and even better Himalayan salt.)
If so much water is neccesary, I feel sure the nomadic tribes of North Africa (Tuareg, Bedouin etc) would have died out. Of course I acccept they had/have become acclimatised to their environment in a similar way those who live at altitude adapt.
Regards
Paul
(PS. I now also have a better understanding of selfies and abs. so my education moves towards completion - est. 2035 :D)
jimbur
15th January 2014, 07:34 PM
Paul, it does sell a lot of bottled water.
When my FIL was in for an operation the nurses had this rigid attitude to how much water he had to drink. The surgeon told them it was a guideline only and was dependent on how much he took in from other sources such as food, coffee etc.
tea lady
15th January 2014, 08:12 PM
I have long been annoyed by people (mainly SWMBO) telling me I must drink more. By and large I drink (water) on demand: Demand of my body. This means that in winter I tend to drink less and in the hot summer months more; A lot more.
Regards
PaulWell you must be better at listening to your body than most blokes.... or blokettes that I know. I remember hearing somewhere that most people interperate the " I am thirsty" message from their brain as " I am hungry". I recon if you front up to a glass of water and you drink it like its the best thing ever I probably needed it.
tea lady
15th January 2014, 08:21 PM
How drinking too much water could kill you (http://health.ninemsn.com.au/healthnews/8534830/how-drinking-too-much-water-could-kill-you)
:think: Intresting. I have Sports drinks on hot days if I am near a shop. Or fruit saline at home. You can also get Gaterade powder that you add to water. Its not fizzy. Perhaps if you are really rehydrated then Gastrolite (for people with dehydration from gastro ) would be the go. You can get icy-poles(to put in the freezer) for kids that won't be made to drink sure a salty drink. (At the chemist).
rrich
16th January 2014, 03:15 PM
Odd, here in the wrong hemisphere, it was 84° F (29° C) here today. The garage was 66° F when I opened the door and the temperature rapidly rose to 78° F (26° C).
Here in Southern California we're having a winter that is more like our usual Spring or autumn. All the while the middle of the continent is using their snow removal equipment to the fullest.
A Duke
16th January 2014, 05:12 PM
300871as you can see our last winter was mild as well, we usually have a couple of -7 & -8.
Regards
Old-Biker-UK
16th January 2014, 09:07 PM
'Is your shed hot today'
NO - cold and wet
300907
That's my village just out of the water.
Think I will build a boat and start collecting animals.
Mark
jimbur
16th January 2014, 09:11 PM
And I put a bucket of water in mine to keep the humidity up a bit.:D
Timless Timber
16th January 2014, 10:31 PM
Drink water?
Are you mad?
Ours contains recycled sewerage, treated and pumped below ground into the aquifer. :doh: :oo:
No Cookies | Perth Now (http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/treated-sewage-gets-all-clear-for-drinking-water-from-state-government/story-fnhocxo3-1226689519912)
My old man always said "water was only fit for dogs to drink and wimmins to wash in" :D
I'm guessing he knew what the peons in our State Govt and at the Water Authority were up to!
Drink beer - problem solvered. :wink:
powderpost
16th January 2014, 10:48 PM
Geeeeez, here in the tropics where it gets hot, it was 29c in the shed today at 1.00pm. :spyme: :D
Jim
issatree
16th January 2014, 11:59 PM
Hi All, John,
Have 2 of those Thermometers that push whatever it is up, but stops at the Highest Temp.
Wed. I checked, late afternoon 44Deg.on one, & 45Deg. on the other.
Thur. was exactly the same as Wed.
Well, No, I didn't even give it a thought to go there, even early morning.
Books were good for awhile, then time to check the Emails + Forums, Had a Ice Cold Coffee, time for the Movie on GEM. Sleep sometime or other, Dog needed to water the Lawn, more TV, more PC, more I/Coffee, Dog again. In amongst all this I had to fill the Evaporate Cooler. No Aircon here.
Desperately hard, hard Day. Lost a couple Kilo's, so that was good.
LOVE THE HEAT.
issatree
17th January 2014, 05:26 PM
Hi Again,
Just had a look @ 5.15pm Fri. 17 / 1 / 2014.
One Thermo reads 46.5 the other reads 48Deg. This is in Our Garage / Shed.
But it has cooled down quite a bit, Thermo just outside the back door, 36Deg.
My recently acquired XTrail Wagon, Temp. Needle was off the Scale.
Yes, all windows were down. Black is not a good colour.
Robson Valley
18th January 2014, 06:24 AM
We don't get heat like you have at the moment. So when we do get a hot summer afternoon with no breeze it's all the more uncomfortable. Back in 2001, I planted grapevines on the afternoon side of my house. Even with all the usual pruning over the years, I have a solid wall of green shade, 60cm out from the house. It is 4.5m high and 14m long. I estimate that it is 5-7C cooler in the afternoon kitchen. For the winter months, the leaves all fall off of course. The winter sunshine today is nice. So are all the snowcovered mountains, 7000-9000' all around my village.
I start rooted cuttings from my pruning garbage and sell those 2/$5. I like selling garbage. I sell the grapes.
When the early leaves are fresh and not yet woody, a bunch of us make dolmades.
My shop is downstairs. 14C when I opened the door.
artme
18th January 2014, 11:26 AM
Dolmades.... Yum!!!:2tsup::2tsup::2tsup:
West facing kitchen not so good!:no:
Robson Valley
18th January 2014, 12:15 PM
artme, my kitchen was a real stinker in the early years, now the summers are green and cool. True, it means that I can't see out of any of my west-facing windows (dining room, kitchen, master bedroom) from my mid-June to late September (depends on frost.) I pick after the first couple of hard frosts, really seems to lift the sugar content.
When adult birds fledge their babies, they get them to fly into my grapevines. Totally hidden from the garden.
But when I'm in the kitchen, I can watch the adults bring bugs for them to eat. The whole show is less than 60 cm from the windows. Hummingbirds go sort of torpid at night, they can turn down their metabolism so they don't starve in the night. . . . often find them roosting in the GVs. We have the super aggressive fighters, the Rufous.
There are some Calliope with red & white striped throats and occassionally a big mountain Black-chinned one will hang out at my place for a week or two.
I tell ya, if I ever had to move, there will be grape vines in the ground and a trellis before I unpack my socks.
artme
18th January 2014, 01:24 PM
Love the idea of that bird show RV!!. Right up my alley!!:2tsup::2tsup::2tsup:
I didn't realize Hummingbirds were over your way.Thought they were tropical/subtropical.
Must look ém up on the internet.
In Brasil they are called Beija Flor - Flower kisser. A beautifully apt name. I have had several
of them at times hover less than a foot from my face. In Brasil people feed them on a water &
sugar syrup placed into a reservoir onto which is attached an artificial flower. The birds become
quite tame, or at least accustomed to humans. My e counters happened on verandahs where these
feeders were placed. The first time I was startled out of my wits. I had eaten some very sweet
desert and this glorious little fellow must have smelled my breath. He came right up to my mouth
and hovered there for several seconds, only moving when I moved.
BobL
18th January 2014, 09:07 PM
My work area is under a split level house, very pleasent today,24 cel :D:D, (74) outside Geelong temp 43.9:o:o (110.5 ) . John.
Clearly not doing any woodwork requiring externally vented dust extraction then?
My shed has good insulation and air con and can maintain 22º when it's ~35º outside and 25º when it's 42º outside, but all that cool air goes up the chimney when either my welding bay fund hood or dust extractor are turned on.
I tend to do work needing DC earlier in the day and then usually switch the air con on after morning coffee.
When my 22kW mains gas forge is running, even on a cold winters morning AND with the welding bay fume hood going flat chat to vent the exhaust fumes, after about an hour the radiant heat from the forge sends the shed temperature to over40º and I have to turn the forge off.
The air con is only 2kW so it doesn't have a hope against the forge.
jimbur
19th January 2014, 03:55 PM
Cooler today and went down to the shed for my Sunday worship at the lathe. I never realised how tired I'd become over the heatwave. I just didn't have the stamina to spend more than an hour or so there.:C
Timless Timber
19th January 2014, 04:15 PM
Only gonna be 39C here this afternoon.
Its only 24C inside the house with the air con running.
I briefly looked outside the door at the tin shed.... didn't even bother to venture outside the door to see what it's like inside the shed... :D
Closed the door and went back to the 'puter.
Hot Day's like this - is when I see what i can find to buy online or gumtree - to use in spring and autumn when its lovely weather to be up working in the shed.
20 years of working stinking hot summers in the tin shed factory, and freezing winters in there.... I don't go to the shed to work unless I feel like it these days. Less and less days I feel like it thru this heatwave... just watching those in the east on the TV, get the 45C days & wild fires we had last week, makes me break out in a sweat.
Once my shed lights are wired up - I might go up the shed at night maybe when its cooler..and potter around doing quiet work like glueing up & cramping etc...
I just don't see the point of working in the shed in such heat during the day if I don't have too.
crowie
19th January 2014, 05:51 PM
Cooler today and went down to the shed for my Sunday worship at the lathe. I never realised how tired I'd become over the heatwave. I just didn't have the stamina to spend more than an hour or so there.:C
JC was a carpenter so I'm sure he'd have liked to spend some lathe time too.....