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springwater
8th November 2013, 08:46 PM
This is a very long shot but here goes; I found the top half of what I think would have been a 20 litre plastic drum washed up on a beach and was hoping someone here could identify it and hopefully tell me where I could obtain more (whole ones). The catch is that I want the profile/mold to be exactly the same as below:
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Tonyz
9th November 2013, 12:34 PM
Yup.........Thats a plastic drum, no doubt about it. :p
springwater
9th November 2013, 05:51 PM
I just thought someone may recognise it, no biggy really!
swk
9th November 2013, 06:23 PM
Always like a bit of a puzzle.:D
Springwater, the numbers are a UN code for packaging. If you google "UN packaging code" or similar, you'll find a number of places that seem to have descriptions.
This might not help either but...
3H1 = A Jerry can , made of plastic, with a closed head (we sort of knew that)
Y1.5 = Packing group II (moderately hazardous) specific gravity of 1.5 (I assume max for the material to be stored)
150 = Vapour pressure of the liquid, in kPa (once again, I assume max)
01 = the year of manufacture
GB/2534 is more interesting. GB is a country code. I assume Great Britain and the 4 numbers are a manufacturer registration number. So potentially you could find out who made the item. But further searching of the internet didn't turn up any more clues.
Regards
SWK
swk
9th November 2013, 06:42 PM
Well, one more step.
This link (http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca/dangerousgoods/packaging-approvals.asp) is the UK packaging approvals database. Manufacturer 2534 (whoever they were) have been cancelled so I would think your chances of getting more of the same are pretty slim.
Regards
SWK
springwater
10th November 2013, 09:59 AM
Thank you very much for trying SWK :2tsup:
springwater
10th November 2013, 07:03 PM
I often find disgarded plastic bait bags washed up on the beach. The one in the first pic was the first Bonza Bait Squid bag I've found, believe it or not the contents are a product of India...Bonza!
BEKKY
11th November 2013, 04:40 PM
Check with someone who works on a farm or is involved with farm chemicals.
In my past life as a farmer I used dozens of similar drums, they contained Roundup & other chemicals.
Regards Keith.
springwater
11th November 2013, 06:33 PM
Check with someone who works on a farm or is involved with farm chemicals.
In my past life as a farmer I used dozens of similar drums, they contained Roundup & other chemicals.
Regards Keith.
Thanks Keith, I've searched a fair while on ebay and such and while there's plenty of used 20 litre drums available for sale, there's none like the one I want. Considering it's production date was 2001 and that it looked like it had spent a long time in the sea going by the number of attached shell fish, I think it's unlikely that I will find another like it. You never know what this Forum can turn up though, that's why I gave it a shot.
rsser
12th November 2013, 10:12 AM
That's a conundrum SW (boom tish).
Why is it of interest can I ask?
I have a couple that look similar; they're 20 l motor oil drums used by Fuchs.
The zig zag collar around the neck in your pic suggests a locking top was used and that probably means the drum contained toxic or flammable liquid. That fits with the code that SWK found.
springwater
12th November 2013, 12:38 PM
That's a conundrum SW (boom tish).
Why is it of interest can I ask?
I have a couple that look similar; they're 20 l motor oil drums used by Fuchs.
The zig zag collar around the neck in your pic suggests a locking top was used and that probably means the drum contained toxic or flammable liquid. That fits with the code that SWK found.
:U:rolleyes: are you sitting down?
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I've cut away the top 75mm at what looks to be a join line where it was melted onto the body of the drum.
If I obtained more, I was then going to join them back to back and stack them 4 x 4.
I found if a strong light was held up to it that it's tranlucent enough for some light to pass through so I thought I'd make facilities within the structure for a light in each component.
I may even wire it for sound and play a long looping of Schwarzkopf sounding out Strauss' Four Last Songs :p but more likely a sound of the sea.
What do you reckon :-:)
rsser
12th November 2013, 03:00 PM
A laudable endeavour. Happy to support it in whatever way I can. Schwarzkopf can bring anything to life.
Pics attached of my two drums. Don't appear to be the same and also still in use. But I'm happy to save them for you.
And they proved a puzzle too but that's another story.
firebug454
12th November 2013, 06:42 PM
This is a very long shot but here goes; I found the top half of what I think would have been a 20 litre plastic drum washed up on a beach and was hoping someone here could identify it and hopefully tell me where I could obtain more (whole ones). The catch is that I want the profile/mold to be exactly the same as below:
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That looks exactly the same style of drum that our fire fighting foam comes in. I'm from NSW but MFB probably gets their foam from the same supplier. Worth a shot to try your local fire station. They'll give away as many empty ones as they have lying around, I know we do... :)
springwater
12th November 2013, 07:28 PM
A laudable endeavour. Happy to support it in whatever way I can. Schwarzkopf can bring anything to life.
Pics attached of my two drums. Don't appear to be the same and also still in use. But I'm happy to save them for you.
And they proved a puzzle too but that's another story.
Thanks Ern but I'm so taken by the design of the drum top that no other is going to satisfy...I've gone all finicky about it. I've even given time to thoughts of reproducing it by means of carving or casting them in ceramics and other stuff but I'd need to find someone with greater expertise in such skills than me to do it. I'm thinking I need 16 or 25 produced to achieve the image in my noggin :doh:
That looks exactly the same style of drum that our fire fighting foam comes in. I'm from NSW but MFB probably gets their foam from the same supplier. Worth a shot to try your local fire station. They'll give away as many empty ones as they have lying around, I know we do... :)
Fairdinkum! Any chance you could take a shot at your convenience I'd be very appreciative thanks heaps Firebug!
springwater
15th November 2013, 06:05 PM
So I try umpteenth firefighting foam web sites of varying descriptions... may have got close witha green looking drum but the pic is front on with a tantalising glipse of the top which looks that it may foot the bill maybe, fracken art!
CMB
15th November 2013, 07:22 PM
Give these guys a go.
A.B.C. Drum Recycling Co
3 Wandarri Court
Cheltenham VIC 3192
(03) 9583 9244
I'm not sure of the ins and outs, but I think if they were used for chemical storage you'll have a hard time getting anyone to release/sell any to you.
Craig
springwater
16th November 2013, 03:38 AM
Thanks Craig, I may be able to swing by there next week.
CMB
16th November 2013, 06:03 AM
No probs. Don't go into the office at the front of the building...it's a different mob. Head down the left-hand driveway, they're right down the back. They open early and close early too (6 till 4 from memory).
Probably best giving them a call first anyway.
Craig
CMB
19th November 2013, 04:56 PM
Any luck yet?
Craig
springwater
21st November 2013, 02:57 AM
Any luck yet?
Craig
No unfortunately, I'm tied to other work at the moment, next weeks looking good though.
CMB
4th December 2013, 07:39 PM
No unfortunately, I'm tied to other work at the moment, next weeks looking good though.
And?
springwater
4th December 2013, 10:13 PM
And?
"The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men,
Gang aft agley"
springwater
5th December 2013, 06:29 PM
Called in to A.B.C. while I was in the area on a squally day to find a solitary fellow sheltering within a big open-ended shed, not doing a whole lot except staring out into the open end. Turns out they only "launder" drums of the 200L plastic and the metal 44gal variety but he gave me a lead to another place that they send other drums to launder for them.
The search goes on!
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CMB
5th December 2013, 07:54 PM
Called in to A.B.C. while I was in the area on a squally day to find a solitary fellow sheltering within a big open-ended shed, not doing a whole lot except staring out into the open end.
Already sounds like the making of a great tragedy. :violin:
Turns out they only "launder" drums of the 200L plastic and the metal 44gal variety but he gave me a lead to another place that they send other drums to launder for them.
The search goes on!
Overall, a very apt description of their operation. Sorry they weren't of more help, but at least you got another lead.
Seems you may discover the meaning of life before you find the source of the mystical drums. All the best with your continuing search. :pi:
springwater
5th December 2013, 09:29 PM
All the best with your continuing search. :pi:
Thanks Craig :)