HELP NEEDED TO FIND Seal material for windows and doors

[Groggy]

I want to replace old seal material from my aluminium windows and doors. This seal I need is NOT adhesive backed like the Raven brand image shown, it is designed to slide into a channel in the window or door. I have searched the internet and a few stores locally with no luck at all. I need over 40 meters, can anyone help? Picture of the actual stuff attached. (also posted on renovate Forums)
http://www.renovateforum.com/attachments/f84/88964d1332560087-seal-material-needed-windows-doors-rp61.jpg

[Mulgabill]

G'day Groggy!
In my past life one of the companies I worked for used the "bug seal" or "felt seal". For memory it has a rigid spline on one side that slides into the aluminium extrusion.

Contact a aluminium window or door manufacturer and see how you go. If that fails PM me know and I will try and use my past contacts to find a supplier.

[nrb]

Have you tried the maker of you windows or others,they may sell you replacement seals,you would only need a small sample to take along.
Good luck

[Groggy]

This is similar advice to what I received at the stores I visited. Unfortunately I haven't yet located a aluminium window/door manufacturer who is interested in selling the stuff.

[Mulgabill]

This is similar advice to what I received at the stores I visited. Unfortunately I haven't yet located a aluminium window/door manufacturer who is interested in selling the stuff.

I will make some phone calls on Monday for you Groggy and PM you the results.

[Groggy]

Thanks Russell, I appreciate it :2tsup:

(driving me nuts trying to find this stuff)

[Mulgabill]

OK Groggy! I just recalled the name of the Wool Pile brand that we used. It is Schlegel in Dandenong South. If you give them a ring on 03 9793 4100 they may be able to direct you to a reseller in your area.

[Black Ned]

If you know the brand of the doors or windows go direct to the Company.
Also Shopfitters use these seals in commercial jobs. One other thought is Obriens Glass as they do repairs and window glass replacement.

[Groggy]

The guys over on the Renovate Forums have been helping out too. It appears that "mohair" is the keyword that I needed, now I can find it in quite a few searches. I'll give Alspec or Schlegel a call on Monday - thanks for the help!

[Gaza]

its called Schlegel Alspec sell it 100%.

if you have trouble buying in melb i can buy from my suppiler and send down in express post bag,

[Groggy]

Thanks Gaza. It's amazing the knowledge buried away in the heads on the forums. I should have asked this question here months ago. :doh:

[Groggy]

I rang Alspec this morning and ordered 50m of the stuff for a princely sum of $0.95 per metre. Alspec were very helpful and found ways to save me money on shipping and also reduced the cost per metre due to the amount that I wanted. The only thing they couldn't do is provide grey, they only had black and I would have had to order 400m to get the colour I wanted. Since the rest of the trim bits are black I was more than happy with that.

Thanks everyone for your help :2tsup:

[Paul39]

The above is why I love this forum!

[Mulgabill]

Good result Greg!:2tsup:

[lesmeyer]

I rang Alspec this morning and ordered 50m of the stuff for a princely sum of $0.95 per metre. Alspec were very helpful and found ways to save me money on shipping and also reduced the cost per metre due to the amount that I wanted. The only thing they couldn't do is provide grey, they only had black and I would have had to order 400m to get the colour I wanted. Since the rest of the trim bits are black I was more than happy with that.

Thanks everyone for your help :2tsup:

Greg, what is the name of the felt that you ordered. I need to get some at some stage as well. Would just like to know what the terminology would be.
Les

[Groggy]

Les, I called and asked for sales (details below), then said I wanted some weather seal for aluminium windows, known as 'mohair'. The guy said "ok, what size and colour?" and we went from there. I did ensure he knew it was not the adhesive stuff. There are a few measurements you must have, and accurate too! I thought I wanted 6mm (by eye) but it went a bit like this:

Him - "is that 6.9mm or 5.3mm?"
Me - "Erk, 'ang about" (rush off to get a ruler) "Ahh, 6.9mm".
Him - "Fine" he says (a bit like the missus says it)
Him - "Now, how long is the pile, 3mm, 5mm or 5.4mm?"
Me - "Ooh errr, (quick measure) 5mm"
Him - in his best Henry Ford voice "we only have black"
Me - "black will be fine, fine!"

ALSPEC - Aluminium Systems Specialists. Aluminium fabricators, aluminium extrusions, architectural extrusions (http://www.alspec.com.au/)

Ph: 1300 ALSPEC (257732)

PS. For anyone wondering why all the fuss over this stuff, my house is over 20years old and these seals have worn from 5mm down to about 3mm. For the north side of the house this means wind, water, noise and dust gets in where it shouldn't. A cheap fix for an annoying problem.

[lesmeyer]

Thanks Greg. That would help me a lot when I go about doing some similar work. I have already replaced the wheels on some of the sliding doors and will do the others soon. I understand what you mean by getting the exact measurements. Had the same issue with getting the correct wheels which was only sorted by taking the old ones out.
Regards
Les

[Groggy]

Windows and Doors - 101

Lessons learned.

The size of the seal is DIFFERENT between a window and a door! :doh::doh::doh:

The door (of which I have ONE) is 6.9mm, the windows are 4.8mm :gaah:

I have some spare door seal if you need it :B

BTW, Alspec were incredibly helpful with the second lot and gave me a significant discount when I explained what I had done. :2tsup:

[Acco]

:roflmao2::roflmao::rofl::laughing1:

[Groggy]

I'm glad you are amused DJ :)

[Acco]

Needed a laugh tonight, had a crappy day due to a tree that was meant to be a log on the ground when I turned up but alas, it was still standing tall with half of its head when I pulled up :((

[heartfire]

Many thanks to all above for your information!

I called Alspec here in Adelaide (Torrensville ph 8150 6960) who couldn't supply residential quantities. They put me in touch with a company called M & S Glass & Glazing in Magill (ph 8361 3188).

I took the window to them and was given enough mohair strip for two windows to try before ordering and paying for all the windows.

Turned out that because the windows were so old, early '70s, the size to fit was the same as the modern door size. So I'll get more on Monday.

I spent way too much on heating last quarter, so minimizing the drafts will save a lot.

Thanks again & cheers! :)

[Tomg44]

The Brush Seals by Ravenand Moroday which are sold at Bunnings, Stratco etc. can beused in Aluminium doors and windows if the channel is 7mm wide.. Sprinkle TALCUM POWDER over the adhesive and in the channel. Theseal will then slide in easily .

[Athome]

So happy to find this thread. I was searching for a solution for my drafty 70's aluminium windows - I checked, and on the closing side the mohair seal is completely gone!!! So, before I decide if I can do the job myself, I would like to know how easy it is to "thread" the new seal into the window frame on all 4 sides- is it possible to do without unsrewing the entire frame?

[Groggy]

So happy to find this thread. I was searching for a solution for my drafty 70's aluminium windows - I checked, and on the closing side the mohair seal is completely gone!!! So, before I decide if I can do the job myself, I would like to know how easy it is to "thread" the new seal into the window frame on all 4 sides- is it possible to do without unsrewing the entire frame?Yes it is, you just slide it in the track and it moves pretty easily.

[Athome]

Thank you! I will give it a try!