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Slavo
7th January 2005, 03:56 PM
To those people who use their swansdown mop for oil and/or wax finishes, do you use one for oil and one for wax; or one for both?

RETIRED
7th January 2005, 05:42 PM
If buying from Neil get 4. Spares never go astray. :D

JackoH
7th January 2005, 07:49 PM
You need a dedicated mop for each finish you are using. i.e. One for Shellawax, another for oil, etc. etc. ( how'm I doing so far Neil?)
This is an unpaid commercial, but Neil has the BEST Swansdown Mops.

ozwinner
7th January 2005, 08:28 PM
, here is a Reaper for you.

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Al :D

fxst
7th January 2005, 10:01 PM
, here is a Reaper for you.
Al :D
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at least the eye colour is right ....get some sleep boss we behave ...really we will :D
Pete

RETIRED
7th January 2005, 11:37 PM
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at least the eye colour is right ....get some sleep boss we behave ...really we will :D
Pete
Now why don't I believe that? ;)

vsquizz
7th January 2005, 11:39 PM
Now why don't I believe that? ;)
Cynical bugger..;) . Don't worry Pete, his brew maker blew up today so he'll pass out shortly from lack of cuppa:D ..then we'll be right.

Cheers

JackoH
8th January 2005, 11:22 AM
The Red Mist has descended again!!! What the heck have the above four posts got to do with Swansdown Mops?
This is a prime example of a serious question from someone who wants a serious answer on a topic which is giving him some cause for concern being highjacked by the so called comedians for some unfathomable reason.
, unless I have completely missed the point, this should go to the 'Absolutely Nothing to do with Woodwork' or the 'Jokes' forums.

ozwinner
8th January 2005, 12:13 PM
What the heck have the above four posts got to do with Swansdown Mops?
Now its 5, oh no, 6, counting yours

Lighten up Jack!!
I do beleive the question was answered, by you, as well.

Al :)

Grunt
8th January 2005, 01:08 PM
What the heck have the above four posts got to do with Swansdown Mops?


I think that this is pretty good for this BB. At least the question got answered before the thread was hijacked and there hasn't been any mention of pancakes. Oops, has now.


Grunt

Gumby
8th January 2005, 01:48 PM
What the heck have the above four posts got to do with Swansdown Mops?
Now its 5, oh no, 6, counting yours

Lighten up Jack!!
I do beleive the question was answered, by you, as well.

Al :)

You beat me to it Al but I'll add my thoughts..............

Please lighten up Jack. :)

outback
8th January 2005, 03:18 PM
So just to re-cap.

When we whip Jack into a lather we need a separate pancake for each of us, as well as each finish we use ,that's a stack of pancakes.

The best pancakes come from Neil, who lives near Swansdown. If we do the wrong thing will hijack our coffee, go to sleep, run off track, and cut off our mops with a red eyed sickle.

O.K. I think I've got it.

Sturdee
8th January 2005, 06:53 PM
The Red Mist has descended again!!!


See what happens when a lad gets out of his chair and goes out of doors, whilst wearing sunnies for the first hour or two as the light is a bit strong, and GETS A LIFE. He starts to see Red Mists descending. :eek:

Think I'll stay indoors and for some unfathomable reason post some more non serious (amongst all the serious ones) posts.

No need to appeal to as he was one of the so called :eek: comedians. :)

So JackoH relax and have a pancake or two. It might make the Red mist disappear. :D


Peter.

schaf
8th January 2005, 10:08 PM
Hi all

There seems to be plenty of smart_ A on this BB. I purchased a swansdown mop at the last Brisbane Working Wood show and now all I get is Fluff stuck all over my work.Very disappointed in this item.
I use it on the lathe to polish carved pieces and am not happy with the results. Have followed the advice given on purchase about roughening the surface to remove the fluff but as I said above very disappointed.
That is the one and only purchase of a swansdown mop.

Thats is my dollars worth, you experts must have another opinion.
Regards Schaf

RETIRED
9th January 2005, 02:28 AM
You must have done something wrong Scaf. We have used them for years and provided you "treat" it right the first time there should be no fluff at all.


From Ubeaut web site:When these mops are new they will shed a lot of fluff the first few times they are used, to minimize and control this shedding it is a good idea to condition the mop before using it. This is done by running the mop at high speed then putting a piece of very course abrasive (16 grit is ideal) in contact with the edge of the mop that is used for buffing. This will drag off any of the loose fibres with a controlled action. This can also be done using a hacksaw blade and a bit of care.

Gumby
9th January 2005, 06:27 AM
Hi all

That is the one and only purchase of a swansdown mop.

Thats is my dollars worth, you experts must have another opinion.
Regards Schaf

We do, they are great!!!

outback
9th January 2005, 11:03 AM
Seeing as how this thread is totally lost, I reckon I can't hijack it any more.

So , how fast is fast when you condition a mop, and how fast is just nice when you are actually using one to buff and polish?

Ben from Vic.
9th January 2005, 11:24 AM
Schaf,

I bought my first mop from Neil in October, so I'm not (yet :D ) an expert.

The first thing I did was to put the mop in the drill, take the B'n'D workmate outside, put the drill in the jaws of the workmate, lock the triger on, and went at it with the 16 grit.
I continued untill there was almost no more fluff being produced (about five to ten minutes) and about ten square meters of yard were covered in fine white fluff :eek: .

Then went straight to using it on a coffee table (which I brought outside, t'be sure, t'be sure) and had no problems at all.

Maybe you didn't get all the fluff out the first time?


Ben.

RETIRED
9th January 2005, 06:45 PM
Seeing as how this thread is totally lost, I reckon I can't hijack it any more.

So , how fast is fast when you condition a mop, and how fast is just nice when you are actually using one to buff and polish?
Ours are on the grinder shaft and run at 1750 RPM.

JackoH
10th January 2005, 08:52 AM
See! That worked well didn't it? :rolleyes:
By the way I bet Neil liked the idea of attacking the mops with 16??? grit(sounds like road gravel) Good for sales! :D
The sun is shining here in godzown and it's going to be 30C. I'm going to put on my sunnies and venture out of doors. :cool: There. I feel better now!

Shane Watson
10th January 2005, 09:34 AM
Geez ya go away overseas for a couple of weeks R&R and ya come back to find you guys playing havoc in my terriorty! Oh & I found the best pancakes ever! ;)


Well done! ;)


Mwahahahahaha :eek: :eek: :eek:

Slavo
10th January 2005, 09:55 AM
Thanks for the answers guys. So Shane, where are these pancakes?

Gumby
10th January 2005, 12:20 PM
I thnk we've missed one of the biggest benefits of the swansdown mop. That is the ability to be always polishing WITH the grain. :)

Termite
10th January 2005, 12:54 PM
You're right again , I finished my bedhead with a swansdown mop and ever since I've been trying to get a bit of fluff on it. SWMBO says if I succeed and she catches me, I'm dead meat. :D

RETIRED
10th January 2005, 02:13 PM
See! That worked well didn't it? :rolleyes:
By the way I bet Neil liked the idea of attacking the mops with 16??? grit(sounds like road gravel) Good for sales! :D
The sun is shining here in godzown and it's going to be 30C. I'm going to put on my sunnies and venture out of doors. :cool: There. I feel better now!
Another "Red Mist " attack coming? ;)

Termite: My wife says the same thing.

outback
10th January 2005, 03:37 PM
Ours are on the grinder shaft and run at 1750 RPM.
Thanks .

I really should getone shouldn't I. I mean theres nothing like polishing yer fluff on a swansdown bed.

HappyHammer
10th January 2005, 04:07 PM
Shave your fluffy Swansdown white boy (Where's the smiley for singing?):D

HH.

Grunt
10th January 2005, 04:26 PM
I say you should forget the mops and use pancakes instead.

HappyHammer
10th January 2005, 04:37 PM
If I had a pancake I'd flip it in the morning
I'd flip it in the evening all over this world
I'd flip out danger
I'd flip out warning
I'd flip out love between my brothers and my sisters
All over, all over this world

Do do do do, do do do do.

Slavo
10th January 2005, 04:51 PM
I thnk we've missed one of the biggest benefits of the swansdown mop. That is the ability to be always polishing WITH the grain. :)
I didn't know pancakes had grain :D

Cliff Rogers
10th January 2005, 06:53 PM
I say you should forget the mops and use pancakes instead.
But what about Hampsters????? :confused:

outback
10th January 2005, 08:46 PM
Pancake fuelled hamsters would spin way too fast, they would shed their fur all by themselves, no 16 grit needed.

Cliff Rogers
10th January 2005, 08:58 PM
Pancake fuelled hamsters would spin way too fast, .....
They don't EAT them dummy, they wear them..... you need more that 16grit to knock that hat off I can tell you.:(

vsquizz
11th January 2005, 12:34 AM
There ya go Cliff...going off track again and not answering the previous posts properly:rolleyes: ...For the benefit of the serious members of the finishing forum that is Not a Hamster. Its a rabbit and pikelet so there :p and in actual fact a rabbit skin makes a reasonable mop if its not shedding, but they make better motorbike gloves:D ...an really good craybait;)

Cheers in pancake refereedum

Cliff Rogers
11th January 2005, 12:43 AM
There ya go Cliff...going off track again ....that is Not a Hamster. Its a rabbit and pikelet so there :p and in actual fact a rabbit skin makes a reasonable mop if its not shedding, but they make better motorbike gloves....
Well it LOOKS like a hampster to me.... the pancake is a bit thin I supose but how do you know so much about these rabbits????? I've heard of people doing stuff with gaffer tape & hampsters but not rabbits & motorbikes.:D

vsquizz
11th January 2005, 01:13 AM
ROFL...lost it:D ...

Cheers

silentC
11th January 2005, 08:27 AM
I didn't know pancakes had grain
Whaddya reckon the flour comes from? :D

Cliff, how did you find a picture of a rabbit (hamster) with a pancake on it's head? What do you Google on to find that?

Cliff Rogers
11th January 2005, 09:49 AM
....Cliff, how did you find a picture of a rabbit (hamster) with a pancake on it's head? What do you Google on to find that?
The truth, no bull..... sometime ago there was a thread about slowing down the speed of a motor & ohms law & hampsters etc....
I was trying to make the point that the R in ohms law is special when it comes to AC & I was Googling on AC theory & I got a 404 error with that guy on it so I used it as my answer & now I happily trot it out when ever I need it.:D

Ben from Vic.
11th January 2005, 10:41 AM
This thread is going to be a ripper for any new member who does a search on swansdown mops. ;)

They'll have no idea were all the other stuff fits in! :rolleyes: :D :D

Grunt
11th January 2005, 11:04 AM
This thread is going to be a ripper for any new member who does a search on swansdown mops.

They'll have no idea were all the other stuff fits in!

Forget the new members, I have no idea where any of this fits in.

vsquizz
11th January 2005, 09:31 PM
Forget the new members, I have no idea where any of this fits in.
To tell the truth I was pretty over the pancakes and looking forward to Christmas Pavlovas but I really overdid the Pav and couldn't look at one for awhile so I'm gunna whip up a batch of pancakes tonight. We have bananas and vanilla icecream so it should be great.

Does anybody know if you can make an emusdown mop??.


The truth, no bull..
Come on Cliff, we know you were trawling the weird fetish sites

Cheers

Cliff Rogers
11th January 2005, 10:20 PM
.... Does anybody know if you can make an emusdown mop??.... I want to watch you try to pluck it? :D


.... Come on Cliff, we know you were trawling the weird fetish sites.... Do you want some of THOSE pictures posted here???? I think that they would not last very long. :D

RETIRED
11th January 2005, 11:02 PM
Do you want some of THOSE pictures posted here???? I think that they would not last very long. :D
You can bet your sweet bippy on that one! :D :D :D

powderpost
11th January 2005, 11:03 PM
I use old knickers for applying polish. SWMBO, complains a bit if she is still wearing them........ :D
Jim

vsquizz
11th January 2005, 11:31 PM
You can bet your sweet bippy on that one! :D :D :D
Which is why I stayed away from the guinea pigs an masking tape thing...oh..oops...it was Hamsters and gaffa tape:o ..what ever rings your bell..:D

But to go against the flow I'd like to (ask a serious question) know what most people actually use their Swansdown mop for. I always thought it was just a french polishers thingy but it seems it has lotsa uses. Is it worth it for the occaisional oil finishes I do ie waxing etc. I have to ask because I have never used one, or even seen one:D

Cheers

Cliff Rogers
12th January 2005, 12:04 AM
... guinea pigs an masking tape thing...oh..oops.......
Damn that Sigmund was a smartass.... :D

Cliff Rogers
12th January 2005, 12:14 AM
... a serious question) .... what most people actually use their Swansdown mop for....
Mine's in the bottom drawer in the desk in the shed, the one the vice covered in crud is attached to. I bought it to use instead of my 'obnoxious boot polish brush' & have pulled it out a couple of times now to get a good shine on some shellawax cream on a 'rough n rustic' burl. I still use the 'obnoxious boot polish brush' to get the cream out of the holes & cracks & it helps to get rid of the fluff too.:D

vsquizz
12th January 2005, 12:52 AM
Mine's in the bottom drawer in the desk in the shed, the one the vice covered in crud is attached to. I bought it to use instead of my 'obnoxious boot polish brush' & have pulled it out a couple of times now to get a good shine on some shellawax cream on a 'rough n rustic' burl. I still use the 'obnoxious boot polish brush' to get the cream out of the holes & cracks & it helps to get rid of the fluff too.:D
Cliff..Whats boot polish??..Is that the stuff I use on leap years when I change me jocks!:o

At the moment I have a couple of pairs of my kids old fleecy PJ's and these (having been washed a zillion times) seem to do a pretty good job (if you remember to remove the buttons first:o damhik). No fluff for Squizzy :D but I don't do a lot of fancy finishes and I don't have a lathe :( .

Cheers

Cliff Rogers
12th January 2005, 01:00 AM
...a couple of pairs of my kids old fleecy PJ's ... No fluff for Squizzy...
Squizz, what's kids.... :D mine are grown up & gone....
Squizz, what's PJ's, particularly fleecy ones.... :D
Squizz, what's fluff, :( Nah, I remember....
that's why we don't wear PJ's.... so we remember.... :rolleyes:

vsquizz
12th January 2005, 01:05 AM
Squizz, what's PJ's, particularly fleecy ones.... :D
:rolleyes:
We found out what fleecy PJ's were when we shot through from Cairns Mate. People look at me funny when I tell them we used to turn the ceiling fan on in the main bedroom and leave it on for nine months:D .

My daughter's initials are PJ and she rarely gets called by anything else.

Cheers

JackoH
12th January 2005, 10:02 AM
See. You're almost back on the subject. :confused:
(Q:What are pajamas? A:What you hang on the end of the bed in case of fire.) ;)

RETIRED
12th January 2005, 07:12 PM
See. You're almost back on the subject. :confused:
(Q:What are pajamas? A:What you hang on the end of the bed in case of fire.) ;)
Jack. I see a little thread digression here. :D

Squizzy. You can use the mop attached to a drill or grinder. It is exceptionally good for polishing odd shaped articles that you can't get any purchase on using cloths. Have a look on the main site.

We used ours mainly for polishing trophy bases and a small bottle carrier. Saved hours.

vsquizz
13th January 2005, 12:58 AM
Squizzy. You can use the mop attached to a drill or grinder.
Phhewww, thank goodness for that, I thought it was another manual labour thing headed my way.:cool:

Cheers

journeyman Mick
13th January 2005, 03:47 PM
Squizzy,
Manuel Labour, he's from Barcelona isn't he?

Fawlty Mick

Termite
13th January 2005, 03:55 PM
Squizzy,
Manuel Labour, he's from Barcelona isn't he?

Fawlty Mick
Yeh, he's got a French cousin called Manuel Manipulation.