History of Australian Bushrangers

[Peter R]

I hereby present, for your entertainment, a short history of Australian Bushrangers : Ned, Ros and now De-Anne the legend lives on.http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon10.gifhttp://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon7.gif

Peter R.

[echnidna]

huh?????????????

[outback]

I'm thinkin' he's pointing out members of the Kelly family.

[echnidna]

sounds like a sydney thing!

[craigb]

I'm thinkin' he's pointing out members of the Kelly family.

Oh I see. The first was a horse thief, armed robber and murderer, the last two are female politicians.

Yep. There's a definite connection.

[bitingmidge]

I thought they all wear/wore body armour...I'm sure I've seen rivets poking through the jumpers of the latter?

P
:D :D :D

[Gumby]

I thought it was just me :D
I have no idea what he is on about............. :rolleyes:

[fxst]

[QUOTE=Peter R]I hereby present, for your entertainment, a short history of Australian Bushrangers : Ned, Ros and now De-Anne the legend lives on.

yabut can they make pancakes???
that is the question :confused:

[echnidna]

So who is De-Anne ???

[Daddles]

I shocked. Nay, horrified. How DARE he mention Ned in the same breath as politicians. As we all know, Ned would have been a failure at politics - he was honest about being a crook.

Richard

[Peter R]

So who is De-Anne ???Sit yourself down,Bob, whilst I explain about my little bit of sarcasm.

Some of the board got it, it was a reference to the Kelly's. You see the first was Ned, he was a big bad man that roamed about the VICTORIAN and NSW country side sticking up good people. The second was Ros,Kelly, also known as 'Whiteboard' Ros. Labor, I think, who gave away copious amounts of taxpayers money to impress her boss. One particular grant from this lady was in this local area with the netballers. They wanted $50g to build their club house, Ros said NO girls, take $80g. The third is De-anne Kelly, Bob, a federal politician..FEDERAL, Bob, like in the big house with Johnny boy, Bob, you have heard of Johnny haven't you Bob? De-Anne's husband was working in De-Anne's office against the rules of the Prime Minister, Little Johnny, Bob, and he was sending viruses to other ministers, and that was naughty. De-Anne is also accused of abusing hundreds of thousands of taxpayers dollars much to the delight of Mark Latham, have you heard of Mark, Bob?

Sorry Bob, I am a real smart **** sometimeshttp://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon7.gif

Peter R.

[Gumby]

Sorry Bob, I am a real smart **** sometimeshttp://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon7.gif

Peter R.

And your last post would back that up.

Bob wasn't the only one who didn't have a clue what you were on about.
Sorry Peter, not a good post in my opinion.

[Sturdee]

Peter R.

Whilst I knew who the three were I also could not see the connection apart from them having the same surname. Whilst it might have made sense to you to me it didn't.

However your explanation is even worse. You make out that our hero Ned, a victim of colonial and British oppression, is a big bad man. What utter rot. Then to say that politicians doing their job ( giving away taxpayers money ) are crooks :eek: and similar to our Ned. Not very entertaining.

Peter get back in the shed and do some woodworking. :D

BTW I know who little Johnny is but the rules on politics stops me saying what I think of him. :D Don't want to yield his battle axe do we now. :p

Peter.

[Gumby]

Peter R.

You make out that our hero Ned, a victim of colonial and British oppression, is a big bad man. What utter rot. Peter.

He's no hero of mine Pete, he was just a crook.

[echnidna]

If you read the history books Gumby, Ned was persecuted into becoming a crook.

[outback]

Peter R, I got, I just don't want it.

Peter Sturdee, I gotta agree with Gumby, I'm oppressed too, but I don't think I'll go round killing people just yet.

[craigb]

Peter R, I got, I just don't want it.

Peter Sturdee, I gotta agree with Gumby, I'm oppressed too, but I don't think I'll go round killing people just yet.

Exactly.

Ned Kelly was a murdering scumbag.

[Gumby]

Sorry, but ned CHOSE to become a crook.

[echnidna]

Mark who???

[ozwinner]

Ned (http://www.thenedkellytrail.com/)

[Gumby]

or this one...............

http://scs.une.edu.au/Bushrangers/kellys.htm

[bitingmidge]

I've always been fascinated by the fact that some of us imortalise a murdering scumbag!!

The tin-suit innovation was undoubtedly history-worthy, but wouldn't it have been so much more beneficial if he'd patented the outfit and started flogging them to the coppers?

He'd have made a lot more dough, and could have gone on to be Prime Minister, but he was too stupid and lazy, preferring to just take the rewards for other people's hard work.

Our pollies may or may not be many things, but there aren't too many of them that fit that category.

cheers,

P (crime commentator)
:D :D

[Sturdee]

When I was young and impressionable I started working for a bank. And before I get flamed may I point out that in those days banking was an honourable and respected profession unlike now. :D

The bank in its wisdom sent me a, city dweller, to work for a few month in Benalla in the heart of Kelly country. There I learnt about the legend, saw the places and became convinced that poor Ned was a victim of the oppressive Victorian regime and its then corrupt police.

If the Kelly's had lived at a different time and place I feel certain that they would not have become outlaws. May be not model citizens but not outlaws.

Whilst I respect other views, this is mine.


Peter.

[bitingmidge]

If the Kelly's had lived at a different time and place I feel certain that they would not have become outlaws. May be not model citizens but not outlaws.

Peter,

I don't want to start a heavy and serious debate, (after all we aren't talking about computers or pencil sharpeners here), but couldn't that be said of any criminal???

Or of anyone for that matter??

Even so....should we not for the sake of history note that the Kelly's were not the only victims of oppression, and some of the others probably didn't choose to steal stuff and kill people?

Should those people not be the true heroes, suffering silently or otherwise to achieve change?

Or did someone suddenly wake up one day and say "Hey that Ned had a point! Let's free the people?"

Whooo it's late!!!!

P (Been listening to too many of John Williamson's mixed metaphors for me own good!)
:cool: :) :)

[silentC]

I've always been fascinated by the fact that some of us imortalise a murdering scumbag!!
I wonder what they'll make of Chopper in a hundred years or so?

[bitingmidge]

I wonder what they'll make of Chopper in a hundred years or so?

Just another murdering scumbag! (Sorry Chopper... and author of children's books!)

There are any number of bad guys whose notoriety will remain with us for ever, and that's ok, after all they are a part of history and recognised for what they were.

Apart from Robin Hood (arguably there's a bit of the Kelly story in Hood as well, not vice versa!) were there any others whose intent was perhaps honourable?

Interestingly the rather sobering Broad Arrow Cafe monument in Port Arthur makes a point of not naming the gunman, in an effort to obscure his memory. There are a lot of websites which do the opposite, making claims of a massive conspiracy. Perhaps in another hundred years, he too will be just another victim of a government intent of ridding us of firearms at all costs??? And the families of his victims??

Dear oh dear PeterR, yo've got a lot to answer for!!!

Are any criminals famous for knocking off wood or furniture pieces??


:D :D :D
P

[Peter R]

If you read the history books Gumby, Ned was persecuted into becoming a crook.
Oh No!!! society was to blame. Don't let Dan see this.
Isn't it funny how a simple little light hearted post can take on the weight of all the problems of the world?
Sometimes I feel like I have stepped into a pen full of angry fox terriers, which of course, will bring another cry of 'foul'.

I suppose that BAH-HUMBUG has to live somewhere.

Cheer up - think of the new gadget that your loved ones will buy you for the shed.

Peter R.http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon10.gif

PS I spend a great deal of daytime making sawdust - these posts are just for fun.http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon7.gif

[bitingmidge]

Sometimes I feel like I have stepped into a pen full of angry fox terriers,

If you don't mind Peter, I'd rather be identified with a Bassett, or even a Great Dane...they have a bit of a woof, then get to go back to sleep.

If I was a foxy I'd have to jumping up and down all the time and I'd just get too tired!

:D :D :D

Cheers,

P (Don't take it too seriously it's just conversation!!)

[HappyHammer]

I've read the books and he was a crook end of of story. He's glamorised to sustain some small towns in Victoria and the film industry neither of which bother me particularly but he was no Robin Hood, what he did he did for himself.

HH.

[AlexS]

Apart from Robin Hood (arguably there's a bit of the Kelly story in Hood as well, not vice versa!) were there any others whose intent was perhaps honourable?



:D :D :D
P

I reckon Guy Fawks was the last person to enter parliament with honest intentions!

[Gumby]

My last contribution to this topic is that I agree with everything Midge says.
Sic 'em Rex !!

[Sturdee]

Peter,

I don't want to start a heavy and serious debate, (after all we aren't talking about computers or pencil sharpeners here),

Neither do I Midge for this is one of those subjects where there is no right or wrong answer only opininions. And as I said I respect that others their opinion. I also think this thread has run its course and that it did not go of topic must be a first for Peter R. :D :D :D

However, having said that, we must be carefull not to judge historical events by today's standards and society but rather in the context of the then existing conditions.


Peter.

[ozwinner]

Pancakes! anyone?


Al :)

[Gumby]

However, having said that, we must be carefull not to judge historical events by today's standards and society but rather in the context of the then existing conditions.
Peter.

We have to judge them by today's standards. Otherwise we'd still be burning witches (instead of allowing them into Parliament)

[Peter R]

Mark who???
Scotty, Scotty, are you there? Beam him up Scotty......Hang on, on second thoughts...

Peter R.http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon7.gifhttp://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon7.gif

[echnidna]

And to think I almost infiltrated

[craigb]

My last contribution to this topic is that I agree with everything Midge says.
!

And so says all of me. :D

[fxst]

Pancakes! anyone?


Al :)

yes please with icecream and a sweet syruppy topping thanks
Pete

[Iain]

Just found this one, what was wrong with Chopper, the murdering scumbag (quote) only shot drug dealers, not innocent bystanders.
His only downfall was bailing up a Supreme Court Judge in Court with a 12g.
If you want corrupt see CSA.

[HappyHammer]

Just found this one, what was wrong with Chopper, the murdering scumbag (quote) only shot drug dealers, not innocent bystanders.
His only downfall was bailing up a Supreme Court Judge in Court with a 12g.
If you want corrupt see CSA.
His problem was his mouth and his ego...

[Daddles]

Not to mention that most of his stories are bulldust anyway.
But hey, he's entertaining.
I wonder what he'd do to a fox terrier who was nicking his pancakes.

Richard

[HappyHammer]

Tell it how many people he'd killed and then get banged up for it....

[RETIRED]

:)