Castration Yes or No

[HappyHammer]

I have a weekly subscription to a local paper from a mid north coast town and they have a section where locals get to have their say on a given topic. This weeks topic was the castration of paedophiles upon first offence.

There was varied feedback like "Yeah get the scissors out", "Maybe on the second offence", "Couldn't drugs surpress the urges?", "string up by the b*****ks!".....OK I added the last one.

Apparently this was up for discussion within government or something.

Wondered what you guys thought.....

HH.

[Termite]

Apparently a genuine pedophile can't be cured. So do what they do to dogs that bite. If anyone of these mongrels touches one of my grandkids or nieces or nephews I'm quite prepared to spend my remaining years behind bars for blowing their heads off. No Bloody Joke.

[silentC]

Absolutely. Sick bastards and no place for them in society.

[Zed]

give me the gun or the noose. I'll be glad to particiapte in the cure....

[Wood Borer]

Pedophilia seems to cover a wide range of situations. For example a 50 year old male with a 4 year old girl to me seems entirely different to a 16 year man with a 15 yr 11 month woman.

I think most people would see the difference and feel that a different punishment or method of reform would be applied to each case.

Then you have the cases of an older female with an underage male – still considered a sex offender but far less punishment. I’m afraid castration would not be an option in those cases.

For me, it is pointless castrating the 50 year old male in my example above, what is the point of castrating a corpse?

I am not strongly in favour of capital punishment but this sort of behavior cannot be tolerated if proved beyond all doubt and not some form of payback or suspicion by the accuser.

[rodm]

We have an obligation to protect our children so as long as it is real and not some malicious accusation to seek revenge or harm, say an ex partner, then I support any action to stop these mongrels.

[simon c]

Pedophilia seems to cover a wide range of situations. For example a 50 year old male with a 4 year old girl to me seems entirely different to a 16 year man with a 15 yr 11 month woman.


I agree there Borer, to the extent that your second example (16yo and 15y11m) isn't even illegal in some(most?) states. Age of concent is normally 16 but some states allow 15yo to have sex as long as the partner isn't more than 2 years older. That way a 15yo is pretected from predatory adults.

[echnidna]

I go along with Termite & Wood Borer after all
what is the point of castrating a corpse?

[Sturdee]

Then you have the cases of an older female with an underage male – still considered a sex offender but far less punishment. I’m afraid castration would not be an option in those cases.


Oh shucks it was nothing like that at all. She was 17 and when me only 14 was shown what I thought was Nirvana. :D


Peter.

[Christopha]

Don't kill the filth, totally emasculate them, brand them very boldy on the forehead and release them to the tender mercies of ther victims and their families............ :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[DanP]

A ten year old and an 11 year old can legally have sex in vic. As stated, as long as there is no more than two years diff. Age of consent is 16 (unless with a person n authority{teacher etc}. How would you feel if a 40 year old was shagging your 16 year old daughter?

As to paedophiles. I'm with the majority. I say that if there is absolutely no doubt, zap em, hang 'em, inject 'em, who cares, just get rid of them.

Dan

[vsquizz]

For me, it is pointless castrating the 50 year old male in my example above, what is the point of castrating a corpse?

So the knackers can be hung in the local mall as an example to all filth bags.

Cheers (Just a Dad)

[reeves]

I think the correct term is 'Bilateral Orchidectomy' and as far as hard core child molesters go, I say shooot em. Keeping them in jail or cutting their balls off only turns them into a monument to their crimes.


Ball or no balls they can still harm children.

[HappyHammer]

Pretty much the response I expected although not as many responses as I expected....

When reading about these animals I feel my face flush red with anger as I imagine how I'd feel if this happened to anyone close to me let alone my kids, I'm with Termite I'd gladly do the time.

Termite, If I was on your jury I'd be setting you free.

HH.

[LineLefty]

I really don't think cutting off their jatz crackers is a strong enough punishment. Enuchs can live relatively normal lives, they're simply devoid of sexual urges.

I say leave them intact but put them in general population prison (H Block?) with bright pink identifying prison uniforms and tell the prisoners that there'll be a blind eye turned.

[PAH1]

I am a sort of advocate of the sort of treatment you guys are saying but there are some rather large issues that need addressing first. While we lived in the US a couple of cases made the papers that make you stop and think.

1. A 17 yr old part indian boy in one of the southern states was arrested, charged and convicted of the murder rape of a 7yr old. He spent 9 YEARS on death row before the real story came out. He was hated by the local sherriff, for no particular reason as he had not been a juvenile offender, and the sherriff made up all of the evidence against this kid. When the kid was arrested they put him into a cell next to the person who had really done it, who was in there on charges relating to another incident. They nearly put this kid to death and his only crime was being hated by the sherriff. If the above posts were performed he would not be alive/entire but yet he was innocent.

I beleive without actually having a source for the statistics that about 10-20% of the exocutions in the US are wrong. Another point is that this crime you talk about is the only crime that simple accusation is regarded as proof and nobody will beleive otherwise.

I have children and the thought of someone doing this to my kids makes me so mad you would not beleive, but there is a reason the Magna carta took payback out of the hands of individuals and I do think that lifetime solitary confinement is more horrible than just about any other punishment we can come up with. At least if we find out that they were innocent we know where they are.

[HappyHammer]

You make a good and worthy point PAH1. This is an emotional subject and people understandably get emotional about it. Trying to view the evidence objectively when close to the victim would also be difficult I'd imagine.

I'd go with solitary if it was for life without parole or any privileges like letters, TV, books...etc.

HH.

[Peter R]

Pretty much the response I expected although not as many responses as I expected....

When reading about these animals I feel my face flush red with anger as I imagine how I'd feel if this happened to anyone close to me let alone my kids, I'm with Termite I'd gladly do the time.

Termite, If I was on your jury I'd be setting you free.

HH.
How is it that when the clergy, of all religions, molest children that they are not labled pedopholes, but as a cleric of some denomination.
Of all the filthy mongrels of this ilk, I reckon that these are the worst.
As a 10 and 11 year old I fought to keep one of these scum away from me, and I succeeded but other kids did not - hate them.
I am late coming in but it brought back bad memories and I didn't know how I would handle the subject, but thanks for the opportunity.
Peter R.http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon8.gif

[HappyHammer]

Sorry to hear that Peter, I'm with you on the clergy or anyone praying on vulnerable kids. I hate that people in a position of trust abuse it and make people think twice about leaving their kids anywhere or taking part in activities that should be fun. Who can be trusted?.. a lot of the time family are involved also...it's very, very, very scary.

HH.

[Peter R]

Sorry to hear that Peter, I'm with you on the clergy or anyone praying on vulnerable kids. I hate that people in a position of trust abuse it and make people think twice about leaving their kids anywhere or taking part in activities that should be fun. Who can be trusted?.. a lot of the time family are involved also...it's very, very, very scary.

HH.
I would like to say a few things about this subject. I was one of the lucky ones, I do not have any great phobias about that time although that time is still vivid in my memory.
The reason we are seeing more and more adults come out with their experiences now, from when they were young, is that these days people believe them.
I spoke to a laye teacher in the School that I was at about the other 'brother' of Satan. The laye teacher said something like, 'I don't doubt what you say but if you make too much fuss the police will charge you as being a neglected child and you will be sent to a boys home'. Now that is scary for a 10/11 year old. let me tell you. I tried to tell my mother but all she said was 'it is costing me 400 pound a year in school fees, I don't want to hear any of your stories'. I don't blame her, that was the mettle of the times. A kid that had been molested in those days was given a stigma, the family was disgraced and the clergy were held unaccountable. Even the police of those days used to say 'it is a civil matter'.
I think that there were as many pedophiles in those days as there is today, only in those days they got away with it a lot more.
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon8.gif
Peter R.