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matthew_g
14th November 2010, 10:39 AM
WHO WILL DO THIS IF ELECTED (An Excellent Letter)
A real worthwhile dummy spit - read this with honour.
This letter should be "a must read" by every politician and in every school in Australia
Why don't the politicians take letters like this to heart ----- Original This is very well said.
A Letter to the Editor (excellent letter)
So many letter writers have explained how this land is made up of immigrants. Maybe we should turn to our history books and point out to people why today's Australian is not willing to accept the new kind of immigrant any longer.
Back in 1900 when there was a rush from all areas of Europe to come to Australia, people had to get off a ship and stand in a long line in Sydney and be documented. Some would even get down on their hands and knees and kiss the ground. They made a pledge to uphold the laws and support their new country in good and bad times. They made learning English a primary rule in their new Australian households and some even changed their names to blend in with their new home. They had waved good bye to their birth place to give their children a new life and did everything in their power to help their children assimilate into one culture.
Nothing was handed to them. No free lunches, no welfare, no labour laws to protect them. All they had were the skills, craftsmanship and desire they had brought with them to trade for a future of prosperity.
Most of their children came of age when World War II broke out. Australians fought along side men whose parents had come straight over from Germany, Italy, France, Japan, Czechoslovakia, Russia, Sweden, Poland and so many other places. None of these first generation Australians ever gave any thought about what country their parents had come from. They were Australians fighting Hitler, Mussolini and the Emperor of Japan. They were defending the Freedom as one people. When we liberated France, no-one in those villages was looking for the Ukrainian-Australian or the German-Australian or the Irish-Australian. The people of France saw only Australians.
And we carried one flag that represented our country. Not one of those immigrant sons would have thought about picking up another country's flag and waving it to represent who they were. It would have been a disgrace to their parents who had sacrificed so much to be here. These immigrants truly knew what it meant to be an Australian.
And here we are in 2010 with a new kind of immigrant who wants the same rights and privileges. Only they want to achieve it by playing with a different set of rules, one that includes an Australian passport and a guarantee of being faithful to their mother country. I'm sorry, that's not what being an Australian is all about. Australians have been very open-hearted and open-minded regarding immigrants, whether they were fleeing poverty, dictatorship, persecution, or whatever else makes us think of those aforementioned immigrants who truly did ADOPT our country, and our flag and our morals and our customs. And left their wars, hatred, and divisions behind. I believe that the immigrants who landed in Australia in the early 1900s deserve better than that for the toil, hard work and sacrifice those legally searching for a better life. I think they would be appalled that they are being used as an example by those waving foreign country flags, fighting foreign battles on our soil, making Australians change to suit their religions and cultures, and wanting to change our country’s fabric by claiming discrimination when we do not give in to their demands.
Its about time we get real and stand up for our forefathers rights, we are AUSTRALIANS! Lest we forget it!!! I am a Native of this Country & proud of it! Join our country, join our culture, join our beliefs, join our schools, our armies, and join the line in giving not just taking the hand outs. If you are from another religion and don’t like ours, then go live yours somewhere else. If you are not happy with our rules and our culture, go live yours somewhere else. If you don’t like our lifestyle and our opinions, go live yours somewhere else. Stand up mates, lets tell ‘em straight. Australia for Aussies, join us, when you are dumping your own country, dump your trash there with it - come here and be one of us. We don’t need you, you need us, join in or off.
NO MORE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
NO MORE not saying CHRISTMAS in stores and our schools,
Seasonal Holiday be dammed!!!
I Want MY AUSTRALIA of birth BACK !!!
MICKYG
14th November 2010, 11:02 AM
Hear Hear
Regards Mike :2tsup:
Gerbilsquasher
14th November 2010, 12:47 PM
Too right cobber.
And bring back corporal punishment.
Scrap the $1000 fine for carrying weapons. No more 'safe injecting rooms'. No more suspended sentences for violent crime.
Give 'em 10 lashes live on national television and double it for every repeat offence.
Dave J
14th November 2010, 01:55 PM
A big :2tsup: to that one.
Dave
Sir Stinkalot
14th November 2010, 02:57 PM
What a complete wank.
"I am a Native of this Country & proud of it!" .... where is the line drawn for this statement? It became a Country only when the author arrived?
"Australians have been very open-hearted and open-minded regarding immigrants" I guess only when they conformed to the ideals of the author or the immigrants came from pre-approved countries!
"If you are from another religion and don’t like ours, then go live yours somewhere else." ..... Im an atheist but born in Australia. Guess I don't belong as I do not conform.
Australia is an eclectic mix of cultures. Surely this should be embraced instead of trying to make everybody to conform into some sort of "ideal". Could you imagine what Australia would be like without outside influences? The world is smaller than it every used to be and it seems stupid to expect people to strip away their past before they are allowed to become Australian.
I am a Native of this Country & proud of it! Join our country, join our culture, join our beliefs, join our schools, our armies, and join the line in giving not just taking the hand outs. ..... while you are at it you are only allowed to drive a commodore (with a spoiler), only allowed to name your children Dazza and Shazza, only allowed to drink VB.
Let me guess ..... this came out of the Herald Sun?
BobL
14th November 2010, 03:16 PM
Australians have been very open-hearted and open-minded regarding immigrants, . . . . .
Sorry - this one gets right under my skin.
My parents were migrants in the 50's. I watched some so called "opened hearted and open-minded" aussie treat my parents and their friends as 3rd class citizens on numerous occasions, just like some of us are now treating people from other cultures. At school were were ridiculed and beat up because we talked funny and ate zucchinis and capsicums. I used to get my own back by inviting certain aussie richard craniums around to eat a very special fruit from our garden, chillies.
If you want Australia of the 50's, paranoid, biggoted, narrow minded and racist - we already have it.
I forgot to add when my dad landed in Australia he went up to the nearest rubbish bin and burnt his foreign passport and papers and vowed never to leave Australia. He went to night classes to learn English. He only ever spoke to us kids in english which was a BIG mistake because we all could have learned another language without any effort, far better than what I could have done at school.
jimbur
14th November 2010, 03:34 PM
It seems it's not even an Australian letter but cut and pasted from a Canadian one. I have also seen it quoted as being from New Zealand and America. The Canadian one goes in part:
Back in 1900... when there was a rush from all areas of Europe to come to Canada, people had to get off a ship and stand in a long line in Halifax and be documented. Some would even get down on their hands and knees and kiss the ground.
Jim
silentC
14th November 2010, 03:38 PM
It's a rehash of an American version that did the rounds a few years ago.
snopes.com: Immigrants From Different Eras (http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/newimmigrants.asp)
Gerbilsquasher
14th November 2010, 03:51 PM
:D
"If you are from another religion and don’t like ours, then go live yours somewhere else." ..... Im an atheist but born in Australia. Guess I don't belong as I do not conform.
I'm an atheist too. The only fair and equal solution is to ban all religion. However Christmas isn't being renamed to suit us atheists- it is more to suit one vocal minority in particular.
Australia is an eclectic mix of cultures. Surely this should be embraced instead of trying to make everybody to conform into some sort of "ideal". Could you imagine what Australia would be like without outside influences? The world is smaller than it every used to be and it seems stupid to expect people to strip away their past before they are allowed to become Australian.
Better having an Australian culture rather than becoming another province of the USA, from where this idea of renaming Christmas and political correctness came from.
I am a Native of this Country & proud of it! Join our country, join our culture, join our beliefs, join our schools, our armies, and join the line in giving not just taking the hand outs. ..... while you are at it you are only allowed to drive a commodore (with a spoiler), only allowed to name your children Dazza and Shazza, only allowed to drink VB.
Bring back the Kingswood I say! The Commodore is GM's 'world car' and does not have a great deal of local design input. The original prototype came from Germany and fell apart after three days of testing on Australian roads.
Wherein lies the problem. If one takes car design as a microcosm of Australian culture then it is easy to see the damage caused by outside influences.
Perhaps the OP is protesting the loss of the the tough, independant and resilient Australian mindset which was the backbone of all the hard yards gained by earlier generations, only to have everything they built dissolve before their eyes as Australia became a nanny state for people who hadn't earnt it.
Would a young woman dressed in only cut off denim shorts and a bikini top, carrying a Vodka Cruiser, be able to walk down the main street of Tehran? I don't think so. We cannot display our culture there, so how can they be allowed to influence our culture here?
Roll on the Australian summer I say. Denim shorts are making a comeback.
Even the great Bernie Ecclestone, Formula 1 supremo, cannot convice the Arabs to allow champagne to be sprayed on the podium.
Why does Australia have to make all the concessions while other countries can do as they please?
Why is Australia a soft target for 'asylum seekers' (ie boat parasites)? Can't we call their boats 'landing craft' and turn them away with force, if necessary? Why can't 'asylum seekers' change the culture in their own countries if they don't like it? Why can't they stand up and fight, and change the regimes in their own countries, instead of running away like whipped dogs?
Why should Australia become a safe haven for cowards?
I will agree, however, on one point you make. There are better beers than VB!:D
PS Before you call me a bigot, my parents were migrants from England. However, they came in the front door.
matthew_g
14th November 2010, 08:15 PM
:D
I'm an atheist too. The only fair and equal solution is to ban all religion. However Christmas isn't being renamed to suit us atheists- it is more to suit one vocal minority in particular.
Better having an Australian culture rather than becoming another province of the USA, from where this idea of renaming Christmas and political correctness came from.
Bring back the Kingswood I say! The Commodore is GM's 'world car' and does not have a great deal of local design input. The original prototype came from Germany and fell apart after three days of testing on Australian roads.
Wherein lies the problem. If one takes car design as a microcosm of Australian culture then it is easy to see the damage caused by outside influences.
Perhaps the OP is protesting the loss of the the tough, independant and resilient Australian mindset which was the backbone of all the hard yards gained by earlier generations, only to have everything they built dissolve before their eyes as Australia became a nanny state for people who hadn't earnt it.
Would a young woman dressed in only cut off denim shorts and a bikini top, carrying a Vodka Cruiser, be able to walk down the main street of Tehran? I don't think so. We cannot display our culture there, so how can they be allowed to influence our culture here?
Roll on the Australian summer I say. Denim shorts are making a comeback.
Even the great Bernie Ecclestone, Formula 1 supremo, cannot convice the Arabs to allow champagne to be sprayed on the podium.
Why does Australia have to make all the concessions while other countries can do as they please?
Why is Australia a soft target for 'asylum seekers' (ie boat parasites)? Can't we call their boats 'landing craft' and turn them away with force, if necessary? Why can't 'asylum seekers' change the culture in their own countries if they don't like it? Why can't they stand up and fight, and change the regimes in their own countries, instead of running away like whipped dogs?
Why should Australia become a safe haven for cowards?
I will agree, however, on one point you make. There are better beers than VB!:D
PS Before you call me a bigot, my parents were migrants from England. However, they came in the front door.
Too bloody right,
I decend from a Latvian background, And my Grandparents conformed to the Australian way of learning english. And we also came through the front door.
Scribbly Gum
14th November 2010, 08:32 PM
When we liberated France, no-one in those villages was looking for the Ukrainian-Australian or the German-Australian or the Irish-Australian. The people of France saw only Australians.
Hmmm .............
Not sure who wrote this little piece, but it would have been useful to check the history books first.
Apart from Bomber Command of the RAF, Australians took no part in the invasion of Europe in World War II.
We were rather busy fighting the Japanese across the Pacific.
The people of France didn't see any Australians.
silentC
15th November 2010, 09:07 AM
It's a rehash of an American version that did the rounds a few years ago.
snopes.com: Immigrants From Different Eras (http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/newimmigrants.asp)
:)
tea lady
15th November 2010, 02:01 PM
It's a rehash of an American version that did the rounds a few years ago.
snopes.com: Immigrants From Different Eras (http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/newimmigrants.asp)
:)Yeah! Its a load of $#!&!:rolleyes:
Sweaping statements made with a big brush. Its very easy to argue that things were better a century ago. They weren't ! Not to say everthing is perfect now. Its all still a work in progress. But if people can still rehash letters like that and get people greeing with them there is still alot of work to go. :doh:
jimbur
15th November 2010, 02:35 PM
Yeah! Its a load of $#!&!:rolleyes:
Sweaping statements made with a big brush. Its very easy to argue that things were better a century ago. They weren't ! Not to say everthing is perfect now. Its all still a work in progress. But if people can still rehash letters like that and get people greeing with them there is still alot of work to go. :doh:
I was searching the net to find out the origin of the 'letter' and was amazed at the number of sites that seem to be driven by pure hatred And that's just among the ones that quote it. Goodness knows how many others there are out there.
Cheers,
Jim
new_guy90
15th November 2010, 06:05 PM
cant be bothered reading this crap this is exactly the same tripe that makes Practical machinist so hostile we all have views on issues this really isnt the place for it
is a metal work forum or not :?
Groggy
15th November 2010, 06:22 PM
cant be bothered reading this crap this is exactly the same tripe that makes Practical machinist so hostile we all have views on issues this really isnt the place for it
is a metal work forum or not :?Nope, this is not a metal work forum, this one is the NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH WOODWORK forum.
DJ’s Timber
15th November 2010, 06:34 PM
cant be bothered reading this crap this is exactly the same tripe that makes Practical machinist so hostile we all have views on issues this really isnt the place for it
is a metal work forum or not :?
Nope, this is not a metal work forum, this one is the NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH WOODWORK forum.
Was originally posted in Metalwork but has been moved to NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH WOODWORK with a weeks redirect :;
kiwigeo
15th November 2010, 06:35 PM
What a wonderful thing the internet is......you can post up anything you like no matter how outrageously ridiculous it is and you can be sure that 90% of the people who read your post aren't going to bother checking it's authenticity.
I'm not going to bother posting my own comments on the original post.....I think Tea Lady pretty much said it all in six words and a smiley......
"Yeah! Its a load of $#!&!:rolleyes:"
Cheers Martin (Atheist Economic Refugee)
Christopha
15th November 2010, 07:44 PM
Yawn.... bigots like the idiot who started should go back where they cum frum , what ever benighted hole that might be.
underfoot
16th November 2010, 05:32 AM
I surf with a few indigenous blokes around here (Gumbaingirr) ...and they've decided that they would like to personally interview any further prospective immigrants to Australia ...:rolleyes:...
However, I find their entry criteria somewhat racist......(something about us whiteys immigration policy being a social experiment run by economists)...
ha....what would they know
btw...tongue firmly in cheek...(for those with irony deficiency):q
jimbur
16th November 2010, 07:46 AM
However, I find their entry criteria somewhat racist......(something about us whiteys immigration policy being a social experiment run by economists)...
ha....what would they know
btw...tongue firmly in cheek...(for those with irony deficiency):q
Started off as prison reform didn't it?:D
Cheers,
Jim
silentC
16th November 2010, 08:55 AM
Ironically with this debate, if you shift it back 200 years and look at it from the original peoples' point of view, the worst fears expressed in the original post actually did materialise :)
jimbur
16th November 2010, 09:36 AM
Ironically with this debate, if you shift it back 200 years and look at it from the original peoples' point of view, the worst fears expressed in the original post actually did materialise :)
Exactly so.
kiwigeo
17th November 2010, 03:48 PM
Oh my God.....an influx of foreigners taking away jobs from Australians, bringing in their own non-Christian religion (Rugby) and their own un-Australian culture (jandals and fush and chups).......
Oh my God.....they're not coming in on tiny boats...theyre arriving at Sydney and Perth by the jumbo jet load!!
We're here and there are hoards more of us on the way :D
robbygard
17th November 2010, 04:14 PM
Oh my God.....an influx of foreigners taking away jobs from Australians, bringing in their own non-Christian religion (Rugby) and their own un-Australian culture (jandals and fush and chups).......
Oh my God.....they're not coming in on tiny boats...theyre arriving at Sydney and Perth by the jumbo jet load!!
We're here and there are hoards more of us on the way :D
and guess what nationality provides the most of australia's illegal immigrants:D
regards david
Gerbilsquasher
17th November 2010, 06:09 PM
Joke time...
Why is a New Zealander like a sperm?
Millions come out but only one works!
However, from personal observation, I must say that every Kiwi I have met has been a bloody hard worker, which contradicts this joke. 'New Zealander' could be changed to 'camel jockey' and it would be more accurate. Once again from personal observation and not something I read on the internet.:wink:
kiwigeo
17th November 2010, 07:32 PM
However, from personal observation, I must say that every Kiwi I have met has been a bloody hard worker, which contradicts this joke. 'New Zealander' could be changed to 'camel jockey' and it would be more accurate. Once again from personal observation and not something I read on the internet.:wink:
Interesting to read the part "camel jockeys" played in South Australia's history. Read here if you're open minded enough: Afghan Camelmen South Australian History (http://www.southaustralianhistory.com.au/afghans.htm)
johnc
18th November 2010, 01:24 PM
Utter crap, in the first world war we jailed (interned) plenty of our citizens because of their country of birth. We busily waved the Union Jack as much as the Australian flag and as for acceptance what bollocks. The catholics and protestants had enough trouble getting along without throwing anything else in. WW2 was not much better, and there was plenty of bigitory towards new immigrants after the war ended.
It is bad enough that people write this mindless rubbish, it is even worse when it is passed on as factual rather than doing a bit of homework to recognise it for the lies and untruths it is formed on.
Wongo
18th November 2010, 05:07 PM
Wow this is powerful. This one is as good as the US version. It makes me want to be a white Australian. :U
[Note to myself: Can't have rice tonight or I can just pack my bag and off. :D]
kiwigeo
18th November 2010, 05:27 PM
It is bad enough that people write this mindless rubbish, it is even worse when it is passed on as factual rather than doing a bit of homework to recognise it for the lies and untruths it is formed on.
The internet......90% spam and ....9% mindless garbage......1% useful stuff (most of it on the Ubeaut forums).