Daylight saving starts soon

[echnidna]

Yippee
More time to make sawdust and less time for drivel

[macca2]

Only on your side of this country.

We in the West don't have it and don't need it. The days are quite long enough thanks.

But then.......... the sun does shine over here on a regular basis.

Cheers
Macca

[vsquizz]

Only on your side of this country.

We in the West don't have it and don't need it. The days are quite long enough thanks.

But then.......... the sun does shine over here on a regular basis.

Cheers
Macca
Depends which way Bob's rear end is pointing doesn't it?

Cheers

[silentC]

I'm with Bob. The sun is rising at about 5:30 these days. That's about 2 hours' wasted daylight as far as I'm concerned. Bring on daylight savings!!!

[craigb]

I'm with Bob. The sun is rising at about 5:30 these days. That's about 2 hours' wasted daylight as far as I'm concerned. Bring on daylight savings!!!

Not to mention the bloody dawn chorus which starts about 4.30 !

Bloody wildlife! :D

[Kev Y.]

AAAAHHH daylight savings, wait for the complaints about fading curtains and confused dairy cows ;) :rolleyes:

[barnsey]

Bah Humbug :mad:
Daylight Saving :eek:
Up here, one part of the household has to live with DS (NSW)
Another part has to live without DS (QLD)
And the rest of us have to work out what the time is/was/should be :mad:
And all because those wonderful beings north of the border don't want to suffer the hardship of their washing fading because there's an extra hour of sunshine, or the farmers won't know what time to milk their cows :mad: :mad:

What a pain in the coit :mad: :mad: :mad:

[silentC]

I love it. I get an extra hour of daylight in the afternoon to do things with the kids and around the house. For example it's actually worth opening a tin of paint and wetting a brush.

To those who worry about their washing - hang it out an hour later. To those worried about the cows - sleep in an hour. :rolleyes:

[goat]

this is the second week of day light savings in tassie believe me we need all the bloody sun we can get

[barnsey]

To those who worry about their washing - hang it out an hour later. To those worried about the cows - sleep in an hour. :rolleyes:

I couldn't agree more but these are among the top reasons why those north of the Tweed River have decided that they don't want it and the pollies are too scared to go against the trend :mad: :rolleyes: :confused:

As a former Victorian - I loved it :D
Having lived in Queensland for a number of years I empathise with those in the far north, they have modified their daily habits to deal with the summer heat - they start work at 6am or earlier coz that's the cool part of the day. Unfortunately they can't get their heads around what changing the clocks does :confused: ie absolutely nothing :rolleyes:

Living on the border between the two is a bloody nightmare :eek:

[silentC]

The only real difference is what it does to 'normal business hours'. In my case, at this time of the year I'd prefer to start at 6:30 and knock off at 3:00 (instead of 7:30 to 4:00) but my boss would be sure to ring and ask me to do something right on 3pm, so I'd end up doing an extra hour every day. I have enough trouble getting out the door at 4pm :mad:

[journeyman Mick]

Having lived in Queensland for a number of years I empathise with those in the far north, they have modified their daily habits to deal with the summer heat - they start work at 6am or earlier coz that's the cool part of the day. Unfortunately they can't get their heads around what changing the clocks does :confused: ie absolutely nothing :rolleyes:

Living on the border between the two is a bloody nightmare :eek:

Actually, moving the clock does have an impact up here. Families try to get their kids to bed and it's still stinking hot. Cooking dinner while it's still in the high 30s and the humidity is in the 90s is murder. Instead of knocking off just in time to miss the afternoon deluge during the wet (and believe me, you haven't seen rain until you've seen rain in the tropics during the wet) you're up on the roof trying to tack it down with a cordless while it's p!ss!ng down at the rate of 1" per hour. For the dairy farmers getting up an hour later is all fine and well, unfortunately the trucks, processing plants etc etc run on business hours, not the cows' biological clock. I don't have a problem with Australia or even the eastern states changing the clock, but let's decide what we want to change it to and LEAVE IT THERE! , none of this changing it forward for summer and backwards for winter. I'm sorry but if you choose to live where it's bloody cold and dark for part of the year I see no reason why I should be inconvenienced whilst you try to cope. We don't ask the southern states to change their clocks in order for us to cope with the heat, we worked out our solution to the problem decades ago and it didn't involve annoying or inconveniencing any one else. :p

Mick the redneck

[jackiew]

went for a walk 6am ish this morning and it was lovely.... pottered around the house before work but its not worth starting anything much only to stop.

Roll on being able to do stuff when I get home in the evening in daylight :D .

[Zed]

Hi,

Is not the switch to daylight savings to do with the amount of summer sunshine our fair land gets as compared to winter sun ? in my understanding because of where we are in our orbital path with respect to the angle the sun, it shines on the southern (and northern) hemispheres more or less,thus we actually get longer days in the southern hemisphere or the northern hemisphere..., the people closer to the magnetic poles notice the difference in daylinght hours far more significantly than the people closer to the equator. thus the cane toads whinge and ***** that the southern states cant get thier clocks right and the taswegians and mexicans complain that its either dark at 4PM or daylight until 11PM depending on what season we're in and how far south they are.... so its not becuase the cows get confused or due to econimoc necessity but rather due to mother nature saying "well I have to spin you guys and cool you down or heat you up otherwise or you'll fall off or always be hot or cold... eh???"

The good thing of course is that NSW being a goodly distance from equator and southern pole gets this wonderful afternoon sun to play in but no "annoying wake me up early through the blinds" morning sun to start the day with. I'm very happy to live in gods gardens and am pleased that you taswegians, mexicans and toads have to adjust yourselves to suit us - its only fair we pay most of the taxes to support your underperforming selves and its about time you gave us something back! Not forgetting the church goers and sand gropers - theys late anyway so no big deal for them right ?

Doesnt most of the world practice daylight savings in some form or another ???








No responsibility is accepted for any accuracy or opinoins expressed in this post :D

[Woodgrub]

:cool: Bring it on for 2hrs :cool:

[silentC]

It was actually introduced during World War I to reduce energy consumption (and help the war effort) because it meant people would get home from work earlier, have an hour of extra daylight, and therefore use less energy lighting (and probably heating) their houses. It was subsequently dropped and picked up again a number of times.

Zed is bang on the dollar in that, the closer you get to the equator, the less benefit it has. North Queenslanders probably don't see the need to have it and view it as an inconvenience to them. We in the south love it (most of us). Personally, I think it's just another reason to abolish state borders because it's ridiculous having different time zones along the east coast - Tweed Heads/Coolongatta being a case in point.

[DanP]

I'd have it year round if I could. Can't see much point in the sun being up at 6.00 am and then down before you get home from work.

[gemi_babe]

I'm with Bob. The sun is rising at about 5:30 these days. That's about 2 hours' wasted daylight as far as I'm concerned. Bring on daylight savings!!!

Get up earlier :p

We don't need longer days in the sun. The UV is bad enough at 9am here without daylight savings in summer!

With kids, how do you cope with bedtime at 9pm??? Or do the kids just have to deal with going to bed while the sun is still up?

Seems cruel to me.... And the farmers don't want more daylight! Its the city folk that think....oh yeah I would like to go for a swim after work, will get more done with the hot sun beating down upon us... yeah no wonder we have high stats with skin cancer.

Just silly!!!!

[craigb]

I think we need a poll. That would sort the wheat from the chaff. Or should that be the hayseeds from the slickers? :D

[RETIRED]

Get up earlier

We don't need longer days in the sun. The UV is bad enough at 9am here without daylight savings in summer!

With kids, how do you cope with bedtime at 9pm??? Or do the kids just have to deal with going to bed while the sun is still up?

Seems cruel to me.... And the farmers don't want more daylight! Its the city folk that think....oh yeah I would like to go for a swim after work, will get more done with the hot sun beating down upon us... yeah no wonder we have high stats with skin cancer.

Just silly!!!!

No just shut up . :cool:

[vsquizz]

In the west a lot of businesses get screwed by DS over east. You go from 6 hrs where other offices are open to five hours. Take out lunch and your productivity takes a dive. Companies expanding from WA even factor this analysis into their plans of which states to target.

Many WA business don't get stressed over having their life dictated to by a time piece and just go to work earlier so they can get more communication time with Eastern States businesses.

A lot of trades people I know start at 7am all year round so they can pick the kids up from school in the arvo or just get home to the family early.

Personally I don't see the need to buggerise round with clocks. If business people want it why not just change the business hours, same thing really...whatever rings ya bell.

I'd like to see school hours changed to 6am to 6pm:D this would permit extended shed time....:D :D . I also think that woodworking machinery should be allowed to operate until at least midnight.

Cheers (I don't wear a watch)

[echnidna]

apparemtly the extra sunlight in FNQ fades the curtains quicker too!

[namtrak]

Get up earlier :p



Im with GB. I was raised in NSW for 25 years, lived in FNQ for 12 years and moved back to NSW 3 years ago. And Daylight saving is a crock. I always get up early and these mornings with the sun up, birds crapping on, warmth on my back when I take the dog for a walk are sublime.

So what if you only get daylight until 8 pm instead of 9 pm - I mean how many families are still outside doing stuff after 8pm anyway? What with repeats of the Simpsons on and all - give me a break

Cheers

[silentC]

A lot of people ask why we have to change the clocks? Why not just get up earlier, change business hours so that you start earlier etc.? Well here's one reason.

Say you changed business hours from 9 to 5 and made them 8 to 4. You would have to change your signwriting. In some cases reprogramme your security, computer and phone systems. You would have to change your public transport system timetables to cope with the earlier peak hour. The traffic light systems would have to be reprogrammed to suit.

Childcare centres, creches, schools and Kindergartens would have to open earlier too. School zone signs would have to be changed. So would Clearway, Transit Lane and Parking restriction signs. The six o'clock news would have to be moved to 5 o'clock. The evening movie sessions would have to start at 7:30. You would have to explain to teenagers that they have to go to bed an hour earlier so they can get up earlier. You'd have to change your alarm clock setting.

I reckon it's much easier to just change your clock and cheaper to buy new curtains.

[outback]

Bunch o lazy bastards, get out o freaking bed fer crisakes.

I hate daylight saving, chooks don't give arf as much milk, cows fade and the washing won't lay no egss.

[jackiew]

if you have lined curtains

a) the curtains don't fade
b) they help convince the kids that its dark outside when it isn't

In uk it can be light til about 10pm in summer ... your kids whinge about going to bed ... you send them to bed with a book .... if they're getting up early they soon fall asleep regardless of whether its light outside.

[namtrak]

A lot of people ask why we have to change the clocks? Why not just get up earlier, change business hours so that you start earlier etc.? Well here's one reason.

Say you changed business hours from 9 to 5 and made them 8 to 4. You would have to change your signwriting. In some cases reprogramme your security, computer and phone systems. You would have to change your public transport system timetables to cope with the earlier peak hour. The traffic light systems would have to be reprogrammed to suit.



Nothing to do with with business hours, all about leisure time, which means get out of bed earlier - and do all those myriad of things that people can't seem to do until after 6pm and only during the 5 months of Daylight Saving. People act as if Daylight Saving is some official licence to do stuff after 6pm. It's a load of codswallop.

[silentC]

Disagree. Getting out of bed early to do things before work is OK if you start work at 9:00. If I had to get up an hour early to do things before I went to work, I'd be up at 5:30. By lunch time I would be asleep at my desk. I'd probably cut my hand off on my tablesaw in the afternoon.

I'd also have to get my two kids and my wife out of bed at 5:30 so that we could "do all those myriad of things that people can't seem to do until after 6pm and only during the 5 months of Daylight Saving". You have obviously not met my wife.

WITH Daylight Saving, I knock off, go home, we go for a walk on the beach, go for a swim, visit friends blah blah blah. The mossies don't come out until after 8pm, because they don't have DST. Last night we went to a friend's house, had a swim and a couple of beers. By 7 we had to leave because we were getting eaten alive by mossies.

It's everything to do with business hours. Business hours govern when people get to go home from work. If there was no such thing as business hours, you could start work and go home when you wanted. It's all about convention. Why am I having this argument :confused:

[namtrak]

...............I'd also have to get my two kids and my wife out of bed at 5:30 so that we could "do all those myriad of things .......................

...................Why am I having this argument :confused:...............

Yeh two good points :)

[Zed]

It's all about convention. Why am I having this argument :confused:


Darren, you KNOW the answer to that particular question...... if someone sez something you just GOTTA put in your 2 bobs worth - the price you pay for squirrelling youself down the south coast where the only humans you see at work are the ones that drive past your office window!!!! :D

Mind you im bluudy jealous - I'd love to live down there with ya! some of the best diving is down there - I remember diving of montague island and having seals press thier yaps into my face mask - in the distance I could hear whales - bliss...

(Note for Oz winner - do not interpret the above statement as zed loves soilentc :D )

[silentC]

Yeh two good points :)
What about the mozzies? I thought that was a good point. ;)

[barnsey]

My, my haven't we got a cross-section of attitudes here!! :p

Well I'd just like to add that the human species originally didn't have watches. Their senses stirred to the sun coming up and setting. This kept them in tune with nature - being the food source - and they survived magnificently. For some reason this race decided we needed to be able to keep account of those hours we were awake. :rolleyes:

Now I've retired - through ill health - I find this overwhelming pressure from society to comply with all these "time" based deadlines. Frankly if you let them rule your life that is exactly what they'll be - "DEAD" lines. :mad:

You can put a boot in an oven but that won't make it a biscuit.
You could call any particular time "A O'Clock" or "B O'Clock" if your penchant is to keep your point of reference alphabetic.

I just find it absolute stupidity that because of an arbitrary line ie a state border, created by a bureaucracy, can justify calling my time different because I stand on one side of the line or the other. (Which I can do in any number of places around here.) when nature would take care of, of it's own accord if allowed to do so. That's why those in more northern climates have adapted to their habitats naturally whilst those down south in a totally different climate rely on bureaucracy and it's fast paced time constraints to impose what would otherwise be a natural adjustment.IMHO :p

Herewith endth the sermon
:D
Jamie

[Pat]

Since I am up at 0430 everymorn to get to the hole of the world (Sydney) for 0700, I enjoy the early sun through spring, but I enjoy the late sun during daylight saving time as it allows me to go surfing during the week! :cool:

[silentC]

Darren, you KNOW the answer to that particular question...... if someone sez something you just GOTTA put in your 2 bobs worth - the price you pay for squirrelling youself down the south coast where the only humans you see at work are the ones that drive past your office window!!!!
Guilty :( My old man used to ask "why do you always have to have the last say?" I'd say "I don't". :D

BTW if anyone drove past my window, I'd be very concerned: